janpawel Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 26 minutes ago, Shak said: Increasingly interested in our wide players being direct, pacey goal threats. If you want to really build the team around Isak you give him free reign to come deep, operating almost like a false nine with the wide men attacking the space that he creates by pulling CBs away from. Yeah makes sense! Do you not see a role for the likes of a MGW / Maddison player for us then? Not saying I do or don't, just an interesting topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 35 minutes ago, janpawel said: Yeah makes sense! Do you not see a role for the likes of a MGW / Maddison player for us then? Not saying I do or don't, just an interesting topic I mean there's a fair chance Eddie will want a wide option who offers something different so MGW could absolutely be an option to play RW. If not, I do get the feeling that Eddie really loves the flat three in midfield for how effective it is in the high press. Ideally we'd have someone at LCM who can offer what MGW or Maddison do in the final third while still having the work rate and fitness levels to play CM for us. From what I've seen of MGW he looks like he'd be good enough in terms of work rate to play CM for us, but I couldn't say for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I was going to start a thread, but better to bump this one. With the emergence of Tino, Hall and Gordon on the left this season, on paper what is our strongest first eleven? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_cowell141 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I was going to start a thread, but better to bump this one. With the emergence of Tino, Hall and Gordon on the left this season, on paper what is our strongest first eleven? Pope Tino - Schar - Botman - Hall Tonali - Bruno - Joelinton Barnes - Isak - Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, p_cowell141 said: Pope Tino - Schar - Botman - Hall Tonali - Bruno - Joelinton Barnes - Isak - Gordon Barnes right wing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 9 minutes ago, p_cowell141 said: Pope Tino - Schar - Botman - Hall Tonali - Bruno - Joelinton Barnes - Isak - Gordon Will we ever see this in action? By the time botmans back some people could be gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I wish we had used that 40m differently than spending it on Barnes. Not a bad player and he is clinical but not my type of player as he is pretty one dimensional and lacks in general play. Been against it since the beginning. Having said that I’m. Sure he will do reasonably well though. In my opinion Gordon is one of the very first names on the team sheet and that’s out on the left 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Longstaff must go. Anderson can stay as back up CM Miley must go out on loan. That's 3 midfielders down. We must get at least 1 if not 2 midfielders, one perm, one on loan is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) Hate to say it but it wouldn’t surprise me if Longstaff starts the first few games next season. (At least) Edited May 16 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Assuming the following are off: Hayden Dummett Ritchie Almiron Lewis Hendrick Fraser Karius Dubravka Targett That's 10 players very likely going out. Not including the maybes like Longstaff, Wilson, Trippier, Ashby etc. Who's coming back in for next year? Minteh, Tonali Possibly Ashby, Kuol, new Man City kid (all under 21 so don't count) Tosin (RCB cover) Kelly (can cover Burn/Hall) GK (Mamadishivili) RW (Almiron replacement Back up CF (Isak/Wilson backup) CM (replacement for Longstaff) The squad needs A LOT of work this summer. It needs a 1995/96 type summer where 5-6 top class recruits come in, Ginola, Ferdinand, Hislop, Barton, Batty, Asprilla to challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) Put it in the Tino thread few months back, but this was a possible suggestion we could head down next season (which was based on Hall not being here at the time) Quote Just spitballing long term, but all top sides essentially play a 3-2 shape defensively. Having Tino starting means we couldn’t do that, but that’s where we could be different and you have the LB basically be a LCB, faster RCB, then two CMs for the shape. So in attack when Tino goes on a run, it’s like this. RCB - Botman - LB Tonali - Bruno Tino - IF - Willock - Gordon Isak Out of possesion, the IF can be wide, Tino goes on a dribble, they can go inside to receive or outside. Willock runs into box to support Isak, Gordon on opposite wing providing width, like Grealish does for Man City. Still feel it’s something the side can evolve into. 4-3-3 out of possession, 3-2-5 in it. Could even look a bit like this in possession for other games: Tino, Tosin, Kelly/Burn Tonali, Hall New winger, Bruno, Willock, Gordon Isak Just options that I feel enable us to control the ball better. Edited May 16 by Sibierski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 51 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Put it in the Tino thread few months back, but this was a possible suggestion we could head down next season (which was based on Hall not being here at the time) Still feel it’s something the side can evolve into. 4-3-3 out of possession, 3-2-5 in it. Could even look a bit like this in possession for other games: Tino, Tosin, Kelly/Burn Tonali, Hall New winger, Bruno, Willock, Gordon Isak Just options that I feel enable us to control the ball better. Interesting thoughts mate Playing both Tino and Hall makes it hard to have the back 3 in possession like you said, Tino is better running up the pitch, and Hall is starting to look quality in his distribution Will be interesting to see how we fit them both in and maximise there skillsets, both are wasted imo if they're hanging back in the 3, someone like Kelly at LB would make more sense then, but what would Halls role be then? Etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just having a quick check and in Feb we named 23 players in the PL squad 3 of that list have been confirmed today as being released (Karius, Dummett and Ritchie) Tonali will take a spot, Anderson and Livramento will be above the U21 criteria so they'll take a spot too, which puts us on 23. Which means we have space for 2 without any outgoings necessary Though, if Joe White is being kept on then he would also need to be registered and that then leaves the 1 space. Kelly is seemingly the closest so that would be the 25 After that it will be a case of needing to sell/remove players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) Surely it will be something like (using nufc.com dont recognise half the kids tbh) Registered players 18/25 10 home grown Pope (HG) Gillespie (HG) Burn (HG) Schar Botman Lascelles (HG) Livramento (HG) Krafth Tonali Bruno Joelinton Willock (HG) Longstaff (HG) Anderson (HG) Gordon (HG) Barnes (HG) J.Murphy (HG) Isak U21 dont need registering (for 24/25 season born on or after 1st Jan 2003 Listed under first team on nufc.com but not including those listed as part of u21s Hall L.Miley Koul J.Miley Minteh Turner-Cooke A.Murphy Huntley Parkinson Stanton Thompson Charlton A.Harrison Harris Hernes Sold (some depending on if we can find a willing buyer) Dubravka Trippier? Targett Wilson Almiron Lewis Fraser Hayden Loan (Over 21) Ashby De Bolle White Edited May 30 by JigsawGoesToPieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Is Tonali only missing the first 2 games? Just thinking with the Miley injury that leaves us with Bruno, Joelinton, Longstaff and Willock And that's with Tonali (allegedly) and Willock recovering from injuries over the summer, fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I won’t be surprised to see a light bench at start of season if Willock is still not fit. I really think we could do with bringing in a midfielder, maybe a cheeky bid for Pavlovic at Bayern now it seems they are going to sign Palinha (sp?) from Fulham. He’d be made for the PL.. big lad too, looks around 6ft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: I won’t be surprised to see a light bench at start of season if Willock is still not fit. I really think we could do with bringing in a midfielder, maybe a cheeky bid for Pavlovic at Bayern now it seems they are going to sign Palinha (sp?) from Fulham. He’d be made for the PL.. big lad too, looks around 6ft Why wouldn't Willock be fit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 25 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Why wouldn't Willock be fit? Aye, would be fairly horrified if he was. The head of steam that's built up around his fitness ahead of anyone else we have is a bit bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 28 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Why wouldn't Willock be fit? Because he’s had a couple of serious injuries that have taken way longer than they should have to heal. It happens with some players, they come back and are not the same, don’t have confidence in their body and start missing games over smaller knocks. Not having a pre season last year was a huge thing also for him and if that happens again I would fear the worst. He’s such a good player when he’s had a run of games.. fingers crossed but am not confident he’ll be back like before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Because he’s had a couple of serious injuries that have taken way longer than they should have to heal. It happens with some players, they come back and are not the same, don’t have confidence in their body and start missing games over smaller knocks. Not having a pre season last year was a huge thing also for him and if that happens again I would fear the w He’s such a good player when he’s had a run of games.. fingers crossed but am not confident he’ll be back like before. Is it not just that his achilles injury wasn't managed particularly well last season? Nothing to suggest he'll miss preseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 What formation do you think would be a good alternative to the 4-3-3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Continued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Third and last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tross Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Gordon is in the wrong position for every formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 So when the window closes who will we register as our 25 man squad? Pope Dubravka Vlach Targett Burn Kelly Schar Botman Lascelles Trippier Krafth Livramento Joelinton Willock Bruno Tonali Longstaff Gordon Barnes Almiron Murphy Isak Wilson U21s Osula Hall L.Miley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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