Nobody Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The weight thing is just a bull shit excuse to fine him, as if any other player would be treated this way for returning over weight most sensible teams just tell them to work it off in pre season, that's what the bloody thing is there for ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Alright I'm out. This is pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If it's just about his weight, I expect to see him back in shape and back in the squad very soon seeing as he's in full training now and probably our most talented player. Oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Dnipro want him according to tomorrow's Journal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Probably joining up with the Ukrainian rebels, Wor Che. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Doubt anyone would want to go to Ukraine atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If it's just about his weight, I expect to see him back in shape and back in the squad very soon seeing as he's in full training now and probably our most talented player. Oh. Of course it's not just about the weight. Main reason for him not playing last season is probably Pardews yellow belly tactics. But that doesn't mean everything said and done is a conspiracy against Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Has anyone ever heard of a player being fined for coming back over weight before? Doubt it is the first time something like this has happened like, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard anyone else being fined for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Has anyone ever heard of a player being fined for coming back over weight before? Doubt it is the first time something like this has happened like, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard anyone else being fined for it. Not sure about the fine part but the overweight thing probably happens all the time. That's why pre-season training is so intensive, to get them back into shape after 6 weeks of switching off. I remember Gazza would have to run miles wearing sweat suits because he'd always come back far too fat to play. Here's one example... "Fair Play Season 3 Cheick Tioté part 2 [ english subtitle]" into youtube and go to 6.22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Saw that Milan story was on the front page of r/soccer. Some of the Newcastle fans responses man Im a massive fan of Ben Arfa but Im fine with this tbh. His fitness has been an issue for the last year and in all the time hes been at the club, there has only been two or three stretches of matches were he has actually been in form. he just made absolutely no effort in getting back, so if our RB was overlapping and we lost possession, the other team had a free passage down the wing Great skills, bad attitude I agree he is out best player and my favourite but what can you do when his attitude is poor and he's not fit? Also we played better without him last season when we had a good spell as at Newcastle we need players to track back, hopefully cebbela can fill the void Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 'cebbela' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 'cebbela' Somebody gave uncle Joe a computer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Dnipro want him according to tomorrow's Journal. wonder if they were the club who apparently bid for him a few weeks back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 What the fuck is match weight? Made up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 If it's just about his weight, I expect to see him back in shape and back in the squad very soon seeing as he's in full training now and probably our most talented player. Oh. Of course it's not just about the weight. Main reason for him not playing last season is probably Pardews yellow belly tactics. But that doesn't mean everything said and done is a conspiracy against Ben Arfa. Pardew the Yellow King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Alright I'm out. This is pointless. So you try to create a debate then bottle it and run when you do. Hardly any debate here. I want HBA to play as much as any other. What I said was that it's pointless to argue on this matter because people are so biased. And ffs I think I made a good point. When people commented that the overweight talk was bullshit and wanted "proof" I linked to one of the many articles thats been on the matter. All I call for is some rationalism. Ffs Ffs, the stories are from newspaper articles which have come from within the club that were branded and admitted to lying to the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Ever since HBA turned down the contract extension he was offered (allegedly) at a lower salary (allegedly again) the club have been trying to get rid of him by any means possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Alright I'm out. This is pointless. So you try to create a debate then bottle it and run when you do. Hardly any debate here. I want HBA to play as much as any other. What I said was that it's pointless to argue on this matter because people are so biased. And ffs I think I made a good point. When people commented that the overweight talk was bullshit and wanted "proof" I linked to one of the many articles thats been on the matter. All I call for is some rationalism. Ffs Ffs, the stories are from newspaper articles which have come from within the club that were branded and admitted to lying to the fans. What? The newspaper articles have come from within the club? How big is this conspiracy anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You don't deserve that avatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Has anyone ever heard of a player being fined for coming back over weight before? Doubt it is the first time something like this has happened like, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard anyone else being fined for it. Not sure about the fine part but the overweight thing probably happens all the time. That's why pre-season training is so intensive, to get them back into shape after 6 weeks of switching off. I remember Gazza would have to run miles wearing sweat suits because he'd always come back far too fat to play. Here's one example... "Fair Play Season 3 Cheick Tioté part 2 [ english subtitle]" into youtube and go to 6.22 Unbelievable! It's blatantly a reason to shun him and get rid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You don't deserve that avatar. I love Hatem. I want him to start every game. I'm just sick of how everything repported in the press is a conspiracy from the club. Even if I love Hatem I think he is capable of unprofessionalism, as all others. And what you think I deserve or not, I luckily don't give a s**t about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 He was told what weight to be, he came back over. Throw away everything else for a moment, it's unprofessional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Has anyone ever heard of a player being fined for coming back over weight before? Doubt it is the first time something like this has happened like, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard anyone else being fined for it. From what I've understood fines for being overweight is pretty basic stuff at professional football clubs. However putting him in with the reserves and treating him like a bag of shit definetely isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The club blatantly lie, have been caught lying, admitted to lying and continue to lie to us. How on earth is something that's so blatantly yet more bullshit from the club a 'conspiracy theory'? Of course players are capable of being unprofessional, but this is Ashley and Pardew, this is what they do, this is how they deflect heat and there are still people thick enough to suggest that perhaps THIS time it's not the owner that lies to us and treats us and the club's history like s***, or the manager that dropped him, moved him, put him behind Shola and Dan f***ing Gosling in the pecking order when he was playing out of his skin. The same manager that we have all come to hate as a manager and a human being. Yeah, maybe THIS TIME it's not them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The club blatantly lie, have been caught lying, admitted to lying and continue to lie to us. How on earth is something that's so blatantly yet more bullshit from the club a 'conspiracy theory'? So all the posters on NO saying he looks fat are in on the conspiracy? Mother of god.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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