OCK Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) z Edited Tuesday at 16:31 by OCK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 13 minutes ago, OCK said: One of the best at off balancing defenders. I once saw someone describing how the way he was throwing defenders off balance was "like watching Michael Jackson moonwalk, but during a football match" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 26 minutes ago, OCK said: One of the best at off balancing defenders. His turn of pace from a standing start with the ball at his feet was really deceptive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, On the Grid said: Ultimately it's a team game and he wasn't a team player. Such a waste Calling bullshit Edited September 6 by Hudson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 6 hours ago, ponsaelius said: Found it, re-uploaded here: The clip of him facing that Norwich defender and he just puts it through his legs and gets round the other side Madly talented and loveable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 I loved Maxi, but he's not even close to comparable to Hatem in terms of raw talent. Howe would absolutely find a way to fit him into the system. Hatem on the right cutting in with Tino covering him with his pace. Inject it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Robert Ginola Hatem ASM In that order, every time. No arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, joeyt said: The clip of him facing that Norwich defender and he just puts it through his legs and gets round the other side Madly talented and loveable I still don't know how he knew he could meg Kieran Richardson from 5 yards away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Robert Ginola Hatem ASM In that order, every time. No arguments. There will be arguments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Robert Ginola Hatem ASM In that order, every time. No arguments. You forgot N'Zogbia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Robert Ginola Hatem ASM In that order, every time. No arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: There will be arguments Not from me - he’s spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Robert Ginola Hatem ASM In that order, every time. No arguments. Hatem ------------- Robert Ginola ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 50 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Not from me - he’s spot on There are loads of different ways to look at it Natural talent HBA Ginola ASM Robert My favourite Ginola HBA Robert ASM Most effective Robert Ginola HBA ASM Most flair ASM HBA Ginola Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 ASM more talented that Robert is a bit of a mental take mind. You’ve basically got to write ASM off as the laziest cunt on the planet for that to hold water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 9 hours ago, Ronaldo said: ASM more talented that Robert is a bit of a mental take mind. You’ve basically got to write ASM off as the laziest cunt on the planet for that to hold water. That's the point though, natural talent means little without hard work. That's why Robert's top in terms of actually being effective. Not that Robert worked hard in the grand scheme of things either mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Robert for me everyday. Being 11-14 years old when we had him and watching him belt in 30-40 yarders felt like it was the best thing I’d ever ever see in a Newcastle shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Just now, Fak said: Robert for me everyday. Being 11-14 years old when we had him and watching him belt in 30-40 yarders felt like it was the best thing I’d ever ever see in a Newcastle shirt. I was 11-14, not Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 13 hours ago, LiquidAK said: I loved Maxi, but he's not even close to comparable to Hatem in terms of raw talent. Howe would absolutely find a way to fit him into the system. Hatem on the right cutting in with Tino covering him with his pace. Inject it HBA would last <5 minutes in a Howe squad. That’s not even debatable. Honestly they would hate each other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 1 minute ago, WilliamPS said: HBA would last <5 minutes in a Howe squad. That’s not even debatable. Honestly they would hate each other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 If Ben Arfa was too much of a maverick for 2012* then there's no way he'd last in today's game where tactical discipline, team ethic and raw athleticism trump individuality. *debatable, I know Still, I think the most creative and adaptable manager finds a way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 11 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: There are loads of different ways to look at it Natural talent HBA Ginola ASM Robert My favourite Ginola HBA Robert ASM Most effective Robert Ginola HBA ASM Most flair ASM HBA Ginola Robert HBA was way more effective than Ginola, in terms of output Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 (edited) 11 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: HBA was way more effective than Ginola, in terms of output I cant agree. Ginola was a huge part in taking us from European contenders to title contenders imo. Teams played differently against us because of him and the threat he posed with goals but mainly his assists with both feet. Think I've mentioned it before as well, but he's the perfect example of stats not meaning everything as well. eg Longstaff scored more last season than Ginola did in his Newcastle career. Edited September 7 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 As others have said similar, I'll sometimes sit and randomly read this article and think about what could have been. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-i-love-hatem-ben-arfa-newcastle-united-st-james-park-alan-pardew My favourite pic of my favourite ever player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 (edited) In spite of never actually bothering to improve himself at any club he played at, he was still widely regarded as being good enough to play at any club in the world had he done so. His entire career was based on talent and talent alone. That makes him unique to any winger we've ever had. Edited September 7 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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