nufc4eva Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 A manager that could come in and not be afraid to play the likes of Armstrong, Sammy, Aaron's would be great and also be capable of developing a balanced style allowing us to attack and pressure opposition while remaining organised off the ball would be excellent. The season we finished 5th we pressured teams in their half and were so organised, we now look a total shambles that struggle to regain and retain possession while driving forward at teams. We rarely have more overrun the opposition and find ourselves with 4 on 2 of there's but seems to always happen to us. A basic 4-4-2 for a while with Sammy/Aaron's and Cabella on right would do with Riviere and Cisse, I mean what did he have to lose putting Cisse on with him last night, Obertan and Sammy could still have came on and could have sacrificed Colback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 In hindsight, maybe a boring 0-0 would have been better last night, if we wanted Ashley to take action? http://www.nufc.com/html/2007-08html/2008-01-06stoke-a.html Or whatever Hughton got sacked for. What was that again? Getting beat by West Brom while 11th in the league? He got sacked for disagreeing with Ashley. The results had less to do with it. Wrong it was all Llambas work. He said Houghton is too nice a yes man. Pardew can stand up to him. Llambas said he use to watch Pardew Westham and he admired his work there. Ashley only stick to him because thats what he does on his business managers. The point is, the sacking had nothing to do with the results on the pitch. Results on the pitch lead to results in the bank account. Ultimately the threat of relegation will force Ashley's hand regardless of how much he wants to support Pardew. I don't buy the idea that Ashley is terrified of relegation. Newcastle is a drop in the bucket relative to his total personal worth. While the free advertising for Sports Direct is a nice bonus, all around the club probably makes him very little money relative to the trouble it causes him. Last time NUFC looked certain for the drop, he opened his wallet in January and brought a shitload of players to lift the team. So yeah, based on evidence I'd say he is worried about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Fuck this shit, i'm done not going back until he is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 In hindsight, maybe a boring 0-0 would have been better last night, if we wanted Ashley to take action? http://www.nufc.com/html/2007-08html/2008-01-06stoke-a.html Or whatever Hughton got sacked for. What was that again? Getting beat by West Brom while 11th in the league? He got sacked for disagreeing with Ashley. The results had less to do with it. Wrong it was all Llambas work. He said Houghton is too nice a yes man. Pardew can stand up to him. Llambas said he use to watch Pardew Westham and he admired his work there. Ashley only stick to him because thats what he does on his business managers. The point is, the sacking had nothing to do with the results on the pitch. Results on the pitch lead to results in the bank account. Ultimately the threat of relegation will force Ashley's hand regardless of how much he wants to support Pardew. I don't buy the idea that Ashley is terrified of relegation. Newcastle is a drop in the bucket relative to his total personal worth. While the free advertising for Sports Direct is a nice bonus, all around the club probably makes him very little money relative to the trouble it causes him. Last time NUFC looked certain for the drop, he opened his wallet in January and brought a shitload of players to lift the team. So yeah, based on evidence I'd say he is worried about it. No chance he wants us relegated but worry he is gambling far to much with this prick and does not see we won't get out of this before long. Just look at our run up to Jan and very few opportunities for wins from what I can see. We will be cut adrift with Burnley before long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm starting to think he might not be worried about the financial impact of relegation either. It's that or he really believes Pardew can keep us up. I don't know any businessmen who like losing money or being associated with failure. I know it's tempting to believe he's enjoying all this but I'm sure he'd rather have Sports Direct plastered all over a premiership ground than a championship one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Get more players in the box. Coach passing triangles. Coach movement in the final 3rd. If you pass forward, there should be at least 1 option of passing it back to someone and there should be at least 2 options to pass it forward, hell, even better if one of those guys is running forward, opening up a channel for a player to pass it to them or take up that space. It's simple shit. It's stuff that makes Gary Monk's of the world look decent right now. It's the stuff that makes our total LACK OF IT, appalling, and amateur. Then there's intangible thing called confidence and belief, one that would have probably gotten the best out of HBA, Marv, MYM, and Cisse. Tell them to get out there and do their best and do what they've been born to do - go play great football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I think Ashley will just back Pardew until he assesses it to be too late, no one else will be allowed to effect this, so he won't let the crowd pressure him. It's just that his assessment of too late is different to ours and he also knows nothing about football. Saying it's early in the season would be fine if we were actually playing well, but the results hadn't turned. The play last night was amateur. It lacked efford, enthusiasm, bravery and creativity. We have a team full of cowards at the moment because the manager is a coward. I've just seen some reporter on Sky Sports News saying "Ashley will be patient." That's the most worrying comment. That doesn't sound like one game and gone, or a few games and gone. It sounds like for now he still believes in Pardew. That is deeply worrying. I'd love someone to tell me if a manager has ever turned round this level of ineptitude, hatred and abuse in living memory. Managers have turned around bad starts, but nothing this bad that I can remember. It's delusional and really just down right thick to think Pardew is good enough to get this round. So so worrying. I think we're just down, and like the last time we went down, everyone in the media will only start breaking down what a complete cluster fuck this has all been once we're sitting mid table in the championship and Pardew is still giving it his slimer act of how he needs more this and that. The spine of this team won't come back up like the last one, all the French players will be off for starters and then we'll be doing a Fulham most likely. It's painful to see how some complete morons win the lottery of life and are too stupid to take advantage in a positive way, instead ruining everything they touch and ruining it for everyone else as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm starting to think he might not be worried about the financial impact of relegation either. It's that or he really believes Pardew can keep us up. I don't know any businessmen who like losing money or being associated with failure. I know it's tempting to believe he's enjoying all this but I'm sure he'd rather have Sports Direct plastered all over a premiership ground than a championship one. I know you're probably right, I'm just desperately trying to think of reasons why Pardew is still manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alyosha Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm 90% sure they're just waiting until the international break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm 90% sure they're just waiting until the international break. Why? Surely if they were going to do it, they would just do it. Theres no turning this round, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The stupid cunt probably thinks this tactic is wrong. http://www.espnfc.us/spanish-primera-divisi%C3%B3n/15/blog/post/2062210/barcelona-and-luis-enrique-bring-back-the-press-to-devastating-effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I did fucking snigger at the irony of him training the team in defensive shape, the threats of the opposition etc for 80% of the week when he whined last night about the final third being a worry. Well there's a shocker Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm 90% sure they're just waiting until the international break. Fingers crossed on this as the final chance to really get rid of him for a while. We need something like a crushing 6-0 defeat to really hammer home what a bunch of crap Pardew is serving up and it isn't going to be turned around. Otherwise the club will ride it out and hope the break quells the fire in protesters. The amount of times he's been saved by an ill timed break in the season is horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Swansea will beat us by 2 or 3 at least, and that's being kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Im starting to get pretty bitter about this whole farce now. Its October & ive been unable to feel like I can provide any emotional backing to the team since the start of the season (Probably from since last derby day tbh). Im fucking sick of it man, I can accept being shit (in the short term), but this slow bleed to death thing just tears the soul & I feel like ive been robbed of a football season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I tell you what. I'd encourage people here to do the league predictor thing if they have a bit of time on their hands. I'm up to game 19 and I have us on 11 points with a goal difference of -30. Unless we get some big unexpected wins, we will be going nowhere but down. I'll post up my final table when I'm done if I can. I've included our customary 0-3 home loss to Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Woke up today knowing certainly he'll be gone. Then I saw the headlines. I really don't know what to think. How did Ashley become so rich making such horrendous decisions about his own businesses? Not sacking Pardew now means relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Think hes reluctant to sack him after those drunken comments last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We'll lose on the weekend and he'll get sacked anyway. I fear we'll get to 10 games with Pardew still in charge - from there it's a long way away from safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If he sacks him after Swansea we're still only 2 wins away from mid-table. Really, the time is fucking now. Any more wait and we may be fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Even on a personal level though, In any other business where a senior management figure was being subjected to such pressure & calls for their head, there would be either public backing or dismissal. Pardue must be (if he isn't already) on the verge of becoming very ill with all this going on & no matter what my feelings on him as a manager, I wouldn't wish death on the bloke. Maybe that is Ashleys secret plan? Why sack him when you can kill him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If he sacks him after Swansea we're still only 2 wins away from mid-table. Really, the time is f***ing now. Any more wait and we may be f***ed. If he doesn't leave after we lose to Swansea i'm putting money on us being relegated. From there we'll pretty much be forced into panic appointments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Of course Ashley cares about getting relegated man. The reason above all else he continues to own us is because we are a premier league club which is a great advertisement for his crappy shops. If we get relegated that all disappears, so does the ridiculous TV money which allows him to spend fuck all. At the moment we are one win from safety so he's not shitting it yet but it won't be long till it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://www.espn.co.uk/blogs/sport/story/351245.html Feels like something he just wrote ages ago and waited for an opportunity to paste some names and adjectives in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Even on a personal level though, In any other business where a senior management figure was being subjected to such pressure & calls for their head, there would be either public backing or dismissal. Pardue must be (if he isn't already) on the verge of becoming very ill with all this going on & no matter what my feelings on him as a manager, I wouldn't wish death on the bloke. Maybe that is Ashleys secret plan? Why sack him when you can kill him Ashley is definitely of the "if he dies, he dies" mentality. I don't know his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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