Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's not a matter of where they come from but how they'd be spending their Saturdays without the match. They'd be spending it in the city centre on the drink watching football on the TV. For our fans the ground is right there so a great deal think they might as well just go anyway. What other PL fans primary drinking holes on a Saturday night are all within 200 yards of the ground? All of the "real" pubs where I live are in Red & Blue. There's people who will go to school, work & die within 4 miles of Selhurst Park. London's a highly concentrated place. None of the stadiums are out of town. Using Crystal Palace again - it's right bang in the middle of a highly populated area with 10 bloody Wetherspoon's alone in within 2.5 miles of the stadium. There's 900k people in the whole of Tyneside. There's 8 million people in Greater London. People stay in their pockets of the City. London fans aren't travelling far for their football fix unless it's Arsenal or Chelsea. Where Newcastle is unique is that there's such a large part of the country with only 1 decent side to follow. Compared to other non-London clubs the stadium is in a metropolitan area. But I wouldn't act like other clubs are so out of town like the Italian clubs. So it's your opinion that even when there's no match on, most people who attend Selhurst Park on a matchday will also spend their typical Saturday night out, their big night of the week, within three or four hundred yards of the stadium? You know more than me but I find that extremely hard to believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's not a matter of where they come from but how they'd be spending their Saturdays without the match. They'd be spending it in the city centre on the drink watching football on the TV. For our fans the ground is right there so a great deal think they might as well just go anyway. What other PL fans primary drinking holes on a Saturday night are all within 200 yards of the ground? All of the "real" pubs where I live are in Red & Blue. There's people who will go to school, work & die within 4 miles of Selhurst Park. London's a highly concentrated place. None of the stadiums are out of town. Using Crystal Palace again - it's right bang in the middle of a highly populated area with 10 bloody Wetherspoon's alone in within 2.5 miles of the stadium. There's 900k people in the whole of Tyneside. There's 8 million people in Greater London. People stay in their pockets of the City. London fans aren't travelling far for their football fix unless it's Arsenal or Chelsea. Where Newcastle is unique is that there's such a large part of the country with only 1 decent side to follow. Compared to other non-London clubs the stadium is in a metropolitan area. But I wouldn't act like other clubs are so out of town like the Italian clubs. So it's your opinion that even when there's no match on, most people who attend Selhurst Park on a matchday will also spend their typical Saturday night out, their big night of the week, within three or four hundred yards of the stadium? You know more than me but I find that extremely hard to believe. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=SELHURST+park+to+croydon+town+centre&oq=SELHURST+park+to+croydon+town+centre&aqs=chrome..69i57.13167j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=selhurst+park+to+croydon+town+centre It's difficult to convey unless you spend a significant amount of time in London. A lot of people stay in their little towns. If you're going to spend £500 on a CP season-ticket you'll happily spend a fair few nights out in Croydon, Brixton or Crystal Palace. These are all local areas where you'll find radgies tearing it up at 3am on Saturday. Of course you could also treck up to Shoreditch, Hoxton or Central London - but you could also support Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well said TCD articulated it well. It's a different kind of animal London, but the similarities with the football clubs are there. Don't focus too much on London anyway. That same feeling is prevalent in other cities in England. I love Newcastle with every bone in my body but from my experience it's not the only town/city in ol' Blighty where people get wrapped up so much in the goings on at their local club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Eh? Selhurst Park, according to Google, is a 35 minute walk from Croydon centre, nearly 2 miles. If SJP were 2 miles away, our crowds would have crumbled under Ashley. People still go because it's a minor inconvenience to their day at worst. That's the point I was making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well said TCD articulated it well. It's a different kind of animal London, but the similarities with the football clubs are there. Don't focus too much on London anyway. That same feeling is prevalent in other cities in England. I love Newcastle with every bone in my body but from my experience it's not the only town/city in ol' Blighty where people get wrapped up so much in the goings on at their local club. It's not, but its certainly different in say Birmgham where there are two clubs. You dont get the same feeling and the amount of people talking about it imo Absolutely agree with that in general. But if you'd seen a Villa win and headed into Aston, Perry Barr, Witton, Longbridge etc then the feeling would be the same as NUFC and the Toon...perhaps with slightly less obvious/advertised passion (guess that comes from the Brummie style) but that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well said TCD articulated it well. It's a different kind of animal London, but the similarities with the football clubs are there. Don't focus too much on London anyway. That same feeling is prevalent in other cities in England. I love Newcastle with every bone in my body but from my experience it's not the only town/city in ol' Blighty where people get wrapped up so much in the goings on at their local club. It's not, but its certainly different in say Birmgham where there are two clubs. You dont get the same feeling and the amount of people talking about it imo Absolutely agree with that in general. But if you'd seen a Villa win and headed into Aston, Perry Barr, Witton, Longbridge etc then the feeling would be the same as NUFC and the Toon...perhaps with slightly less obvious/advertised passion (guess that comes from the Brummie style) but that's about it. Yeah true, but the support is so widespread there, like amongst the lads I know, its WBA/Villa/Blues/WBA/Wolves and thats only in our group. Same here. I did my post grad in Birmingham and out of the people I met who were local to Birmingham, all those clubs you mentioned plus Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea were represented. I don't even know what point I'm trying to make anymore. I'll shut up now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I know loads of people who will buy a ticket to the match just because they know they're going out in Newcastle on a Saturday night and it forms part of it. The place is always packed with stag parties bumping the crowd up. Comparisons with Croydon man, howay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. There's loads from what I recall en route from Thornton Heath and there's loads around Norwood Junction too. I agree that our gates would drop if we were out of town but I'd still go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. There's loads from what I recall en route from Thornton Heath and there's loads around Norwood Junction too. I agree that our gates would drop if we were out of town but I'd still go. Is there any amount of negligence from the people running the show that would ever stop you going? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. There's loads from what I recall en route from Thornton Heath and there's loads around Norwood Junction too. I agree that our gates would drop if we were out of town but I'd still go. Is there any amount of negligence from the people running the show that would ever stop you going? Genuine question. Nope. Seen worse and seen better. I've been going since 1977 and had a season ticket since 1982. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I live in leytonstone. Orients like a 10 minute walk away and the support is pretty heavy here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 People say they've seen worse and tbh I'm too young to know any better, but have other owners ever been this callous/uncaring? I find it hard to fathom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I find it impossible to believe there's ever been this much of a disconnect between ownership and the general good of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Absolutely no doubt whatsoever in my mind that if the ground was, say, 2 miles out of the centre (like Aston Villa or Everton are) attendances would nosedive. It would instantly be far too much of an inconvenience to watch this fucking dross. Just to add something else. For people who live outside of Tyneside and are without Metro access even getting to SJP can be a bit of a pain in the arse to be fair. I've experience of both sides of the coin but now living in County Durham I find it a right pain in the arse getting to the ground. If Im on the drink its a bus then the train, if I'm not its taking the car and all the shit that comes with that ie gridlocked roads and shite parking. Sometimes I just can't be arsed with it. Loads of our support make these kind of journeys too and an out of town stadium would actually be easier to get to for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 But then loads of people would be getting the bus into town and then having to get another bus/taxi from town to wherever the stadium is 2 miles away. Then get the bus/taxi back into town after the match. Look at Leeds, it's a big 1 club city also and has supporters from York etc who will get the train into the city centre and then get the bus/taxi to the ground which just seems like a massive fuck on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Leeds, their demise still makes me laugh. I'm old enough to remember them as the top club and its still like seeing Manu or Liverpool spending years out of the top flight to me. I love it. Pardew out(to keep on topic) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. There's loads from what I recall en route from Thornton Heath and there's loads around Norwood Junction too. I agree that our gates would drop if we were out of town but I'd still go. That's all that's in Selhurst and Norwood Junction - pubs, chicken shops & bookies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Eh? Selhurst Park, according to Google, is a 35 minute walk from Croydon centre, nearly 2 miles. If SJP were 2 miles away, our crowds would have crumbled under Ashley. People still go because it's a minor inconvenience to their day at worst. That's the point I was making. This is what I mean as you have to experience it. Trust me when I say the people consider that hyper local - that's where most would do their casual run to Zara or whatever. I'm just saying it's not a lot of effort to watch Crystal Palace or any London club and get on with the rest of your day unlike say Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I had a dream last night that I came on here and there was a thread saying Tim Sherwood had been announced NUFC manager. The funny part is the club never announced that Pardew had been sacked. I'm pretty sure this means he'll be here forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Whenever I've been to Selhurst to watch us play and granted it's been a while since I did, but I recall a severe lack of boozers in the vicinity of the ground. There's loads from what I recall en route from Thornton Heath and there's loads around Norwood Junction too. I agree that our gates would drop if we were out of town but I'd still go. That's all that's in Selhurst and Norwood Junction - pubs, chicken shops & bookies Don't forget the performing arts school for train loads of pretentious teenagers. And Greggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Reckon the cunt will fluke a win in the next two prem games, just have a horrible feeling...could be Liverpool the way they are playing right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I really want to want us to lose just to get rid of this parasite but i can't, not fully anyway. I know it's probably the same for many on here but some of you seem so genuinely gutted when we win, it makes me question my own commitment ☺. My worry is that if we do go down we'll still be stuck with these wankers and to be honest i'd rather be stuck witj them in the Premier League than the championship. We're just clinging on to blind hope that Ashley sees sense but i'm starting to believe it won't happen. He's Ashley's loyal little lapdog and as long as he doesn't bite him or shit in his car he's going nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Leeds, their demise still makes me laugh. I'm old enough to remember them as the top club and its still like seeing Manu or Liverpool spending years out of the top flight to me. I love it. Pardew out(to keep on topic) They only really had from about 1998 to 2002 as a relevant Premier League team from what I remember. Or are you talking like from the 70s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Leeds, their demise still makes me laugh. I'm old enough to remember them as the top club and its still like seeing Manu or Liverpool spending years out of the top flight to me. I love it. Pardew out(to keep on topic) They only really had from about 1998 to 2002 as a relevant Premier League team from what I remember. Or are you talking like from the 70s. They did win the title in '92 as well tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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