Kanj Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I also assume the club will take control of the shop again too - which will be massive for them to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 little pay off for castore??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 209 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Cautiously optimistic about the return of adidas but a couple of red flags for me: 1) is no one else slightly concerneed about the creative guy from adidas who seems to think that three bold black stripes is an 'iconic' feature of NUFC shirts? Firstly, like most marketing people, he doesnt understand what 'iconic' means, but more importantly none of the shirts he's referencing there are particulary fondly remembered or are associated with any success. If your looking for fan favourites surely you've got to be looking at 83-86 home and away, all three Asics shirts or the 95-96 home and away? I know its all subjective but I do wonder if this is the right guy to be leading the NUFC design team if he thinks that Bukta shirt or the NTL one is 'iconic'. 2) I am very skeptical that adidas will grant us 'elite' status at this stage. Only Arsenal and Man Utd have that honour in the PL. Leicester, who were fairly recent PL and FA Cup winners, were only ever a tier 2 team. So we will very likely end up with some very standard looking template design shirts, like Sunderland got, and wont have those 'player' issue bespoke designs that most fans feel we would deserve. We are probably at least three or four years off anything changing there. Edited August 20, 2023 by Harry 209 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I know nothing about it, but is the ‘elite’ status (and therefore non template designs) thing a term related to on field success, or units of shirts sold, or instagram ‘likes’ or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Manxst said: I know nothing about it, but is the ‘elite’ status (and therefore non template designs) thing a term related to on field success, or units of shirts sold, or instagram ‘likes’ or what? Geordie hordes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 209 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Manxst said: I know nothing about it, but is the ‘elite’ status (and therefore non template designs) thing a term related to on field success, or units of shirts sold, or instagram ‘likes’ or what? I dont know how thats calculated either, but the 'elite' teams - Man Utd, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Juventus and Real Madrid - all have social media followers in the 10s of millions, whereas we have lower single digit millions of followers. So i'd guess its something to do with global reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Manxst said: I know nothing about it, but is the ‘elite’ status (and therefore non template designs) thing a term related to on field success, or units of shirts sold, or instagram ‘likes’ or what? ‘What had we recently won at the time of them initially signing the deal with us in 95? They know how much stuff they can sell to us when the fan base is engaged, regardless of our trophy haul or lack of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Castore's sudden rise across many sports has made my very suspicious about their operations etc. Edited August 20, 2023 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Whitley mag said: One of the biggest benefits of Adidas will be their distribution, kids from all over the country will be able to go into their local JD Sports and Adidas shop and get our kit. Ive never seen our shirt in any sportswear shop around the country under Castore. *world I’ll know we’ve made it when Juventus aren’t the only black and white stripes in US stores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Kanji said: I also assume the club will take control of the shop again too - which will be massive for them to do. Hopefully get a bit of a mega store on the go in town/metro centre too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 209 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: ‘What had we recently won at the time of them initially signing the deal with us in 95? They know how much stuff they can sell to us when the fan base is engaged, regardless of our trophy haul or lack of. I think we can sell a lot of merch in the region but those other 'elite' teams have enormous global fanbases which we arent even close to, at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 It's their own hierarchy tbf, putting us in there might undermine it, but they can do what they want really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Harry 209 said: I think we can sell a lot of merch in the region but those other 'elite' teams have enormous global fanbases which we arent even close to, at present. I’ve been all over the world when I was in the RAF and like the song goes, us Geordies do indeed get everywhere. You’d be surprised how much global reach we already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Be staggered if we have a deal in the “hundreds of millions” over 5 years if we’re not one of their elite teams. Think they can see we’re on the rise as a club and wanted to tie down a long term relationship before other big brands came sniffing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, NSG said: Be staggered if we have a deal in the “hundreds of millions” over 5 years if we’re not one of their elite teams. Think they can see we’re on the rise as a club and wanted to tie down a long term relationship before other big brands came sniffing. 60 odd million a season would be reasonable I reckon given what some other clubs get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: 60 odd million a season would be reasonable I reckon given what some other clubs get. Can’t see us getting the same as Arsenal and Chelsea? Edited August 20, 2023 by Manxst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Manxst said: Can’t see us getting the same as Arsenal and Chelsea? Depends how and who’s making the argument for us, top 4 last year and both Liverpool and Chelsea weren’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Depends how and who’s making the argument for us, top 4 last year and both Liverpool and Chelsea weren’t. I guess. Which is why I asked the ‘elite’ question earlier. Would it go on past/recent success, or potentially perceived future growth. Even given my bias, I can see why Chelsea and Liverpool would possibly be offered more than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Maybe we just drive a hard bargain. It wouldn’t mean it wasn’t fair. Fair can’t mean ‘lower than any other comparable club’, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Maybe we just drive a hard bargain. It wouldn’t mean it wasn’t fair. Fair can’t mean ‘lower than any other comparable club’, surely. But people are saying we should/could be getting £60m, which isn’t far off Man City’s £65m deal. Don’t tell me the two clubs are currently equally ‘comparable’ on and off the pitch. I think some people are going to be disappointed in the deal. £40m I can see, or around that- 50 top end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Imagine there's some sort of performance related bonus in these sorts of deals? I.e. they'll pay us more in a given season based on CL qualification/progression? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I think £40m sounds about right for now but wouldn’t be surprised if it’s lower. That said, we can guarantee any funds they pay us will free up FFP funds to strengthen the first team, a good incentive to back us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Always been an Adidas man from since I was old enough to wear trainers, even now for me their stuff is the best. They stood the test of time for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 If market value is fair, i know we won't be, but what if we matched Man Utd's deal. Can they and the other scummy 6 stop it somehow ? I 'm sure they'll try like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: If market value is fair, i know we won't be, but what if we matched Man Utd's deal. Can they and the other scummy 6 stop it somehow ? I 'm sure they'll try like. PL can say they won’t sign it off, like Chelsea’s deal. That was related to the TV deal but I’m sure it would come under their ‘above £1m’ scrutiny for being fair and proper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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