Guest antz1uk Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 i'd take 2 relegations in a row, in a heartbeat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 To me when I think back over the last 8 years all I get is Sports Direct, relegation, derby day defeats, Pardew's smug face, Kinnear in the dugout, Ben Arfa being drove out, Carver and then Jonas being told to f*** off despite saving the club from relegation again. Utter grim. Nothing nice or memorable at all. What a waste of 8 f***ing years. When the the history books refer to this chapter all it needs is a Sports Direct sign. There has been no football or football club. Its a shell of a club and the fans are not Newcastle United supporters any more, they are Premier League customers now there to watch a game of Premier League football. Cheers Mike! in that time look at the journey Southampton and Leicester have had.. I know which i would rather have had and it doesn't included sports direct tat Exactly. I don't subscribe to this belief that going down equals immediate doom. Although I'd rather we stayed with competent ownership. The lies and myths concocted to vindicate Ashley's actions by the press. Can you imagine if he owned Liverpool? There'd have been a media reckoning. You can tack Swansea on to that list too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Feel no connection with anything that is connected to NUFC but the history before Ashley its just a empty shell for me now,if we get relegated i will not shed a tear as what you reap you sow and all self inflicted and the muppets who go every fortnight you are part of the problem ,booing at halftime and fulltime does not make a difference .Everyone can jump on the fans backs if we revolt quoting " well you spent £50 million what more do you want" but its more than that its the very lifeblood of the club being ripped out week in week out and the whole country can see it and the media see it but we sit back and accept as our souls have been numbed to the pain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko c***s purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant t***s pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko c***s', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. Arrogant twats pat each other on the back? Alright, I'll be reasonable, I can kind of see that point of view, but that's easily a bit OTT. Personally, I just cannot fathom why you would keep throwing precious time and money at something that you clearly have trouble enjoying, or, in some cases, get nothing out of at all. People see things differently and have different reasons behind doing stuff, I get that much. But to say they aren't helping to facilitate the demise of the club? I'm personally not having that. The reason people are calling out sections of our support for facilitating this bullshit is because they by and large have a point, and one that's based on logic. The greedy cunt currently running this club is milking it for all that it's worth to him, and the fans walking through the turnstiles and buying shit from his Sports Direct extension at the stadium are helping to fuel this. I just don't get how people cannot grasp this concept or are still in denial about what their actions are doing. He's the one that is directly responsible for all of the bat shit insane, illogical, amateur and perhaps intentional choices this club has made over the last 8 years, and people are seemingly happy to continue to pay for the privilege, grouse and moan about it when it doesn't go their way, and then keep going back and expecting anything different? After 8 years? . For real, what the fuck? Do you think this shit would be tolerated by fans elsewhere on the continent for 8 years? They would pull him apart in other countries for shit like this with the club where it is now, having been repeatedly dragged through the mud on the back of gambles, corporate yes men (who have likely never had any interest in football or sport whatsoever) and a chronic lack of necessary investment. What's even more galling for me are people who happily buy into this shit and then have a pop at or resent people who are actually principled enough to stand up for something they love. So, what, not only are you (this isn't directed at you personally, btw) helping to fuel this, you're actually defending it too? Some supporters are actively trying to force through the change necessary so that the club can actually be a competitive sporting institution again in the future, not some continued husk, empty shell of a club with deceitful, unethical corporate faces slapped on it. They may fail, sure, and it may not work out the way people hope it may, but they've had the balls to try and the virtue of giving something up in the short term to help make it better for everybody involved in the future. In my eyes, they are the ones actively fighting so that, perhaps, the future does not look so bleak for our younger support. What's counter productive are the hordes of people giving these guys shit and undermining any effort to have an alternative by being onside and buying into the product Ashley is selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 hardest decision i had to make in a while. jacked in my season ticket but my 2 boys aged 7 and 9 are just getting into football and are absolutely obsessed. begged to be taken to SJP. so have started going to home games again. at least they're being brought up as toon fans unlike a lot of their friends knocking about in citeh, chelskea and manure kits. hate the football but its just a great afternoon of bonding (even even if we're bonding over shite). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant twats pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko cunts', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. They are literally handing over their money to the man responsible for ruining our club. How can it be anything else? ASHLEY OUT Please take my £500 50,000 plebs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 You need people not turning up and the people who are turning up making the soundbites of discontent. There was a nice balance of that thanks to AO at the end of last season. AO need to be kickstarted again. The later it's left the more damage that will be done. The removal of Ashley is the removal of the problem. We can then nurse our wounds and come back fighting. They've probably given up on it all and I wouldn't blame them. The last thing they organised was the sit in protest after the final home game of last season and out of a 52,000 crowd around 700 of us participated whilst the rest just slipped away quietly. Despite everything Ashley has done and the garbage football I had sat through, the fact that little more than 1% of the crowd could be bothered to at least get behind it and show those in charge at the club that we were totally pig sick of it all convinced me that my time in the stands at SJP was done and I've never been to a match since, and have no intention of going back any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant twats pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko cunts', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. http://publishpositionprofit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Matrix-red-pill-or-blue-pill.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Good to read more criticism of Newcastle fans on Newcastle-Online You can take your support of the sheep giving their undying love for the death of this club and stick it right up your fucking arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant twats pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko cunts', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. They are literally handing over their money to the man responsible for ruining our club. How can it be anything else? ASHLEY OUT Please take my £500 50,000 plebs. My gripe with the 'facilitating' comment is that we're all facilitating it by subscribing to sky, buying into the Premier League brand etc. Don't see the point in apportioning any unique level of blame to those watching the football on a Saturday as they've always done. The blame ultimately lies with Ashley and those running the game. Your general point is a fair one but you, and many others, show yourself up with shite like '50,000 plebs'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko c***s purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant t***s pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko c***s', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. They are literally handing over their money to the man responsible for ruining our club. How can it be anything else? ASHLEY OUT Please take my £500 50,000 plebs. My gripe with the 'facilitating' comment is that we're all facilitating it by subscribing to sky, buying into the Premier League brand etc. Don't see the point in apportioning any unique level of blame to those watching the football on a Saturday as they've always done. The blame ultimately lies with Ashley and those running the game. Your general point is a fair one but you, and many others, show yourself up with s**** like '50,000 plebs'. No the ones showing themselves up are the fools who are handing over their £500+ year after year, sit in silence like a load of dummies, whilst Ashley and his chums sit there laughing at them. They might as well all drop their trousers, bend over and let the fat man finish the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Okay - well I don't mind saying I'm one of the "plebs", "sheep" or whatever you want to call us who still attend fixtures. However, I'm also one of the few that actively goes, sings, and protests. Yes, financially it is contributing to the demise of the club, but as far as I'm concerned without the likes of me there's nigh-on 52,000 day trippers with their flasks and sweets having a jolly old day out. I go to have a voice, to express my love for Newcastle, the city and the club in every era prior to this and in hope that one day we take it back, and take it back soon. Without people like me protesting in the ground where possible the media and the club think everything is alright. I'm not saying I'm alone and I'm not saying I protest 24/7 but to be labelled as harshly as some of you are, I find a little bit irritating to be honest. One thing I do agree is that it takes a United front to force this c*** out and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. I hate the c*** running this club - but for me I am defiant (or in denial) that this is my club and it will return to being my club and it will also remain mine so long as I'm in it when I believe I should be. I boycotted Spurs last year because it was (for me) a United protest. I would have liked to think those who continue to boycott would also join me in protest on occasion in the ground - but apparently that's a no go for most. Some sign of unity that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Your sole voice in the ground is doing nothing because the majority of fans are content with this existence. Or indifferent enough to not say anything. The fan base has changed. They're spineless, and there's nowt you can do by going to each game and shouting on your own. Stop paying him and find something else to do with your time, you pleb. And whether I live in the area or not is irrelevant, at no point have I said "I stopped going each week because of Mike Ashley" I just think that everyone who is going now, shouldn't be. There is absolutely no reason to attend SJP until there is some group effort to achieve something, and tbh, I don't think that day will ever come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Heza although I think you're a mug for still going, I respect you because you are going to cheer the team and jeer the regime so to speak. You are like a foot soldier. It's the utter cretins who go and buy pints, pies, programmes, wonga shirts and bemoan referee mistakes or bad luck for our woes that do my head in. The type of people who considered Carver a good bloke, a Geordie doing his best or Pardew hamstrung by lack of spending only to stick up for Ashley for turning a profit and keeping us from doing a Leeds. SJP is full of these mongs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (So basically someone needs to kill Mike Ashley. Bagsy not me.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The cold hard fact is that attending under this this regime gives it legitimacy and is perpetuating it. We all saw how much they shat it when they knew people would take action and now it seems they know if they still make the token noises we'll go back to being good little fans. I traveled 600 miles all told to watch that shite on Saturday at the expense of around 3-400 quid for my family. It's got nowt to do with where anyone lives or the amount of time they put in. Emotionally and time wise we all put in a lot but it's a painful truth that by attending on Saturday I legitimised that. I respect that people offer voices in the ground but we know that Ashley doesn't deal in that currency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Your sole voice in the ground is doing nothing because the majority of fans are content with this existence. Or indifferent enough to not say anything. The fan base has changed. They're spineless, and there's nowt you can do by going to each game and shouting on your own. Stop paying him and find something else to do with your time, you pleb. And whether I live in the area or not is irrelevant, at no point have I said "I stopped going each week because of Mike Ashley" I just think that everyone who is going now, shouldn't be. There is absolutely no reason to attend SJP until there is some group effort to achieve something, and tbh, I don't think that day will ever come. Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. My point is though it's not a choice you have to make, it has 0 level of consideration for the factors why people might decide to not go. So just to go on calling people plebs or whatever without any understanding or attempt to understand their reasoning is just ignorant as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We've had this discussion about 100 times. I am fully aware of your line of thought on the matter. I just don't agree with it, and I think you're a pleb for paying him the money. Let another pleb pay him instead. Maybe one day the plebs will drop off. Who knows. Either way, NUFC is fucked, but you're not facilitating it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Heza although I think you're a mug for still going, I respect you because you are going to cheer the team and jeer the regime so to speak. You are like a foot soldier. It's the utter cretins who go and buy pints, pies, programmes, wonga shirts and bemoan referee mistakes or bad luck for our woes that do my head in. The type of people who considered Carver a good bloke, a Geordie doing his best or Pardew hamstrung by lack of spending only to stick up for Ashley for turning a profit and keeping us from doing a Leeds. SJP is full of these mongs. Aye and I agree with all of that. Including me being a mug for still going. There's perfectly good reasons for some to still go that's all I'm getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (So basically someone needs to kill Mike Ashley. Bagsy not me.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 at no point have I said "I stopped going each week because of Mike Ashley" I racked it in because of Mike Ashley. The excitement of waking on matchday (200 mile round trip for home games) had long since been replaced by absolute dread at having to go. The decision to call it a day? So, so liberating. Seeing that the 'head of security' had been stealing Bruges tickets and selling them on the day - not only keeping his job but evading prosecution - in the city neatly summed up where we were as a club. Things have not improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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