ponsaelius Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just seen the potential format. Personally I think that's better than alternatives that have 3rd place teams going through. Something approaching straight knockout from the start is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just seen the potential format. Personally I think that's better than alternatives that have 3rd place teams going through. Something approaching straight knockout from the start is good. Encourages draws/defensive football though? if you play games 1 & 2 in your 3 team group, and get 2 points, a winner in game 3 will see you through with the two draws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm sure they'll do away with draws and every group stage game will have extra time and penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hmmm. It's hard. The format does suck. 16 and 32 work very well, everything else is difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just seen the potential format. Personally I think that's better than alternatives that have 3rd place teams going through. Something approaching straight knockout from the start is good. Encourages draws/defensive football though? if you play games 1 & 2 in your 3 team group, and get 2 points, a winner in game 3 will see you through with the two draws Game 3 will is absolutely nailed on to be a draw if that gets those other teams through.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just seen the potential format. Personally I think that's better than alternatives that have 3rd place teams going through. Something approaching straight knockout from the start is good. Encourages draws/defensive football though? if you play games 1 & 2 in your 3 team group, and get 2 points, a winner in game 3 will see you through with the two draws Game 3 will is absolutely nailed on to be a draw if that gets those other teams through.... If game 3 is a draw in that situation all 3 teams will have played out draws and all be on 3 points. Then what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Goals scored I would assume... lots of 6-6 final group games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hmmm. It's hard. The format does suck. 16 and 32 work very well, everything else is difficult. I'd genuinely prefer it to have 64 teams. Have the first round a 2 legged knockout or some bollocks. At least keep the correct number in the bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Group stages are going to be as pointless an affair as the Euros. Pony teams like Congo, New Zealand & Norway providing a free pass for the big teams. Hopefully the knockouts will still be dece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Initially thought this was going to involve Wild Card bullshit and thought it was a terrible idea, but having seen the actual format I'm more amenable. This actually shortens the group stages, so that seems like a good thing. Realistically qualifiers have been too unforgiving with a lot of deserving teams in Europe missing out due to arbitrary tiebreakers, so this makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. It's perfectly fair. Europe tend to send 13 genuine football teams, bar 2002 when Ireland qualified. The same can not be said of Asia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. It's perfectly fair. Europe tend to send 13 genuine football teams, bar 2002 when Ireland qualified. The same can not be said of Asia. You haven't convinced me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. It's perfectly fair. Europe tend to send 13 genuine football teams, bar 2002 when Ireland qualified. The same can not be said of Asia. I've said this before, but if the purpose of the World Cup was about just having the 32 best teams, then you wouldn't invite anyone from Asia at all. It's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. It's perfectly fair. Europe tend to send 13 genuine football teams, bar 2002 when Ireland qualified. The same can not be said of Asia. I've said this before, but if the purpose of the World Cup was about just having the 32 best teams, then you wouldn't invite anyone from Asia at all. It's not. Japan & S. Korea would probably scrape in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think its a cracking Idea, under current rules Asia get 4 places, Africa get 5 and Europe get 13, that's not fair. I'm all for more games to watch during the world cup and although I didn't initially like the idea of penalty shootouts settling group games this is probably the best way to keep things fair. It's perfectly fair. Europe tend to send 13 genuine football teams, bar 2002 when Ireland qualified. The same can not be said of Asia. I've said this before, but if the purpose of the World Cup was about just having the 32 best teams, then you wouldn't invite anyone from Asia at all. It's not. Japan & S. Korea would probably scrape in. As currently constituted I have my doubts, but that's not the point. You have larger quotas in the non-Europe federations precisely because it allows you to bring in somebody like Uzbekistan or China or New Zealand to the big stage from time to time. You get people in that country invested in football, the game grows, and eventually they get to the point where they deserve to be in on their own merits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 And I'm all for that, but this can already happen with the current format. There was absolutely no need to completely devalue the first round of the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Asians shouldn't get a place in the World Cup? I'd be embarrassed with England who couldn't get out of a group that had Iceland in it tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Think they should have just gone for 64 tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Asians shouldn't get a place in the World Cup? I'd be embarrassed with England who couldn't get out of a group that had Iceland in it tbf. whatever m8, no asian teams even made it out of the groups so youve got nowt to be proud of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 And technically we weren't even in a group with Iceland, therefore the tournament was a glorious success for English patriots everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 And I'm all for that, but this can already happen with the current format. There was absolutely no need to completely devalue the first round of the competition. Yes, but it solves the problem of those slots coming at the expense of deserving European teams though. You get to have your cake and eat it too now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag_in_NZ Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 16 x 3 is mental, so much crap will get thru, could go with it if it was 8 x 6, NZ regularly qualifying will do f-all for the game domestically or internationally.....money move ASAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Think they should have just gone for 64 tbh. I suspect the scale of the tournament may have become prohibitive for a lot of countries *cough* Qatar *cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 To be fair, one of the best things about international football is seeing minnows do well. The format is shit though and 64 would work so much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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