The College Dropout Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Aye but he's not "just" short. He's way short. aye now not sure what you're getting at here...the post talked about him getting undue shit because he never became our messi or ronaldo...at 17 wayne rooney was in a different league to cronaldo for example, things just went a different way for them and the hypothesis is people are somehow subliminally disappointed at what he's become and that he's failed to perform in major tournaments for england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. what's this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Wayne Rooney would've been served better by playing the same centre forward role he showed so much promise doing in 2003-4. Taggart converted him to a deeper lying forward to England's detriment but Manchester United's gain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 apples are shite! oranges mint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Wayne Rooney would've been served better by playing the same centre forward role he showed so much promise doing in 2003-4. Taggart converted him to a deeper lying forward to England's detriment but Manchester United's gain. so goes the eternal tabloid cliche...i think it's worth forgetting he's been more than happy to coast his entire career in the best team in the league wringing manyoo for every penny he could along the way had he done a ronaldo and forced a move at 23-24 who knows what he could have become? he's as much to blame as anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. Didn't you play the 'it's a forum for discussion' card just yesterday? It's just always so tempting to pick apart the unmitigated shite-dressed-up-as-insight you talk tbh. Yeah, Deuce said that we thought he WOULD become one of the top 5 players in the world. I would say that's pretty bang on. It doesn't necessarily mean that those same people have ever thought he has been in the top 5 in the world. As for the Bale point, what are you getting at? They're massively different types of players who came onto the scene in the polar opposite of ways and no one even mentioned him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. Didn't you play the 'it's a forum for discussion' card just yesterday? It's just always so tempting to pick apart the unmitigated shite-dressed-up-as-insight you talk tbh. Yeah, Deuce said that we thought he WOULD become one of the top 5 players in the world. I would say that's pretty bang on. It doesn't necessarily mean that those same people have ever thought he has been in the top 5 in the world. As for the Bale point, what are you getting at? They're massively different types of players. i wouldn't even use the word "would", "could" is more accurate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. Didn't you play the 'it's a forum for discussion' card just yesterday? It's just always so tempting to pick apart the unmitigated shite-dressed-up-as-insight you talk tbh. Yeah, Deuce said that we thought he WOULD become one of the top 5 players in the world. I would say that's pretty bang on. It doesn't necessarily mean that those same people have ever thought he has been in the top 5 in the world. As for the Bale point, what are you getting at? They're massively different types of players. i wouldn't even use the word "would", "could" is more accurate Being cautious yeah, I thought he would being totally honest. He looked incredible when he burst on the scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Lets face it, Rooney cannot take the blame in his England performances when the players playing around him have all been poor and quite frankly, shit in major tournaments. Rooney is not going to score 40 goals in major tournaments if he gets fuck all service. The England team has been poor all round for years, not just Rooney. Rooney will get undue stick because people don't like him for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Thought Rooney was probably England's best player in the last World Cup not that that was a massively contested prize Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The big criticism of Rooney is that he's never done it at the World Cup finals or at the Euros, 2004 aside. I think he'd had done much better if he'd had Beardsley, Hoddle, Waddle, and John Barnes setting him up like Lineker did. There's a big drop from them to Downing, Crouch, Lennon, and all the others Rooney's had to play with. Bit ridiculous to pick all the best players Lineker played with and comparing them to some of the shittest Rooney has had to. May as well say Rooney has had Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard whereas Lineker had Steve Hodge, Carlton Palmer and Andy Sinton. My point was more about the quality of creative players that Lineker played with versus Rooney. The main one for me would actually be Beardsley. Everyone who played alongside him scored goals. The other three were all regulars though and had what I remember were good games. There have been talented players alongside Rooney too, they were called the "golden generation" after all, but the lasting taste is they failed to gel and/or recreate their club form at international level. Rooney has often played in teams that ended up as less than the sum of their parts, Gerrard/Lampard being only one of many issues. At Man U Rooney has proved capable of playing in many different systems, so I don't think he's ever been the problem. Lennon has 20 odd caps in spite of struggling to start for his club. Downing has over thirty, so they haven't been bit part players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The big criticism of Rooney is that he's never done it at the World Cup finals or at the Euros, 2004 aside. I think he'd had done much better if he'd had Beardsley, Hoddle, Waddle, and John Barnes setting him up like Lineker did. There's a big drop from them to Downing, Crouch, Lennon, and all the others Rooney's had to play with. Bit ridiculous to pick all the best players Lineker played with and comparing them to some of the shittest Rooney has had to. May as well say Rooney has had Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard whereas Lineker had Steve Hodge, Carlton Palmer and Andy Sinton. Not having Steve Hodge in that list of shite like. He was excellent for England in his brief International career, specifically at Mexico 86, when his call up along with Peter Reid at the expense of suspended crab Wilkins and crock Bryan Robson coincided with our surge to the quarters, which had seemed impossible after losing to Portugal and only drawing with Morocco when Wilkins got sent off for throwing the ball at the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The biggest issue with Rooney is that I don't think anyone knows what his best role is, or how to fit a team around him. Which I guess is the same kind of comment as he hasn't reached his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Late to the Jonathan Pearce conversation but this is pure gold:lol: Could well be a Giggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. good god man, it doesn't cost anything to just admit you misread the post "Whoops, my bad. Misread the post." Look at that, so simple, so pure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. good god man, it doesn't cost anything to just admit you misread the post "Whoops, my bad. Misread the post." Look at that, so simple, so pure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not even what Deuce said, but he was once voted 5th in the balloon door so.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not even what Deuce said, but he was once voted 5th in the balloon door so.. What a great year that was.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You just like to quote my posts. Deuce said top 5 best players in the world. As if he was 5-10 and we are being harsh. I don't consider Gareth Bale one of the best 5 players on the planet but he's in the top 10 probably. Rooney's never been as good as Bale was in the 2/3 seasons before last season. what a load of rubbish. As if you're the only one with a list Your arguments are so pedantic and boring I almost (almost) couldn't give a shit what your list is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not even what Deuce said, but he was once voted 5th in the balloon door so.. What a great year that was.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 height=400https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12006191_887284478030785_4805330524588974950_n.jpg?oh=e7f11e5dfbe52265de8f23297271e4c8&oe=566294A4[/img] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's not bad like. Some shite on there like San Marino, Kazakhstan and Brazil but it's a good haul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 He's our top scorer in competitive games right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 About half against any country of note but I bet if you look at any leading scorer's record it'll look the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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