KaKa Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Greenwood and Tammy very strong possibilities to lose out going forward now due to silly decisions off the pitch. With Grealish and Calvert-Lewin benefitting instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On the back of Southgate mentioning Mount in every Grealish question: ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Bit strange from Southgate, mind. Tend to think he's absolutely spot on in all interviews but it's a bit weird if he's being evasive about Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Weirdly hates Grealish like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Banged a member of his family? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Reading between the lines, his comments about Mount moving the ball on quickly and closing opponents down were interesting, because that's two things that Grealish doesn't do well. He's very skilful on the ball, but does tend to hang on to it, looking to open the defence up with the next pass. And I don't think he's great at defending. Grealish is a great talent, but tends to play as an individual and there may be difficulty in fitting him into a team pattern, at the top level. I'm not saying Southgate is right. I'm just saying that I think these are the reasons he's hesitant about Grealish. The likes of us tend to focus on what a player does, whereas managers will be more aware of what a player isn't doing. Again, I'm not saying he's right, so take it easy please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Reading between the lines, his comments about Mount moving the ball on quickly and closing opponents down were interesting, because that's two things that Grealish doesn't do well. He's very skilful on the ball, but does tend to hang on to it, looking to open the defence up with the next pass. And I don't think he's great at defending. Grealish is a great talent, but tends to play as an individual and there may be difficulty in fitting him into a team pattern, at the top level. I'm not saying Southgate is right. I'm just saying that I think these are the reasons he's hesitant about Grealish. The likes of us tend to focus on what a player does, whereas managers will be more aware of what a player isn't doing. Again, I'm not saying he's right, so take it easy please. Not sure what you're getting at here? I mean he agrguably plays at the top level now PL, and he's just played really well for England. We'll be wasting a talent if Southgate goes down this pass. It's his job to fit him into the team. It's not like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Reading between the lines, his comments about Mount moving the ball on quickly and closing opponents down were interesting, because that's two things that Grealish doesn't do well. He's very skilful on the ball, but does tend to hang on to it, looking to open the defence up with the next pass. And I don't think he's great at defending. Grealish is a great talent, but tends to play as an individual and there may be difficulty in fitting him into a team pattern, at the top level. I'm not saying Southgate is right. I'm just saying that I think these are the reasons he's hesitant about Grealish. The likes of us tend to focus on what a player does, whereas managers will be more aware of what a player isn't doing. Again, I'm not saying he's right, so take it easy please. Not sure what you're getting at here? I mean he agrguably plays at the top level now PL, and he's just played really well for England. We'll be wasting a talent if Southgate goes down this pass. It's his job to fit him into the team. I think the main issue I'm trying to get at is Grealish's use of the ball. Wenger used to monitor his players' performances scientifically, and would pick any player up if the stats showed that they were hanging on to the ball for longer than a set length of time. That was very much Arsenal's style, moving the ball around quickly and opening things up that way. This is a big generalisation, but the higher the level of football, the more the dependence on passing and team fluidity, rather than giving the ball to an individual, and relying on them to produce a moment of magic. Now I think that's why Southgate is hesitant about Grealish's attacking contribution. He does produce those great moments, but Southgate perhaps thinks that the way he hangs on to the ball can also detract from the fluency of an attack. And his work when the team doesn't have the ball can be called into question. If you're Messi, a manager can afford to accept the trade off. With Grealish, a manager is likely to be more hesitant. It really depends on what other options a manager has, in terms of getting the best from the entire team. You're right about Grealish's ability, in that he would walk into nearly every team in the PL. There's no doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Reading between the lines, his comments about Mount moving the ball on quickly and closing opponents down were interesting, because that's two things that Grealish doesn't do well. He's very skilful on the ball, but does tend to hang on to it, looking to open the defence up with the next pass. And I don't think he's great at defending. Grealish is a great talent, but tends to play as an individual and there may be difficulty in fitting him into a team pattern, at the top level. I'm not saying Southgate is right. I'm just saying that I think these are the reasons he's hesitant about Grealish. The likes of us tend to focus on what a player does, whereas managers will be more aware of what a player isn't doing. Again, I'm not saying he's right, so take it easy please. Not sure what you're getting at here? I mean he agrguably plays at the top level now PL, and he's just played really well for England. We'll be wasting a talent if Southgate goes down this pass. It's his job to fit him into the team. It's not like. It is. Any other country would, you don’t just shun talent like that. We’ve been doing it for years and then going “how come we don’t produce players like ‘insert country’. We do sometimes. We need to use them Howay man, he's good but he's not THAT good. Adama Traore is just getting his first Spanish cap now, fairly similar quality and age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Grealish would get in both Liverpool and Citeh’s squad in my humble opinion. He should easily get into a shitty England team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Reading between the lines, his comments about Mount moving the ball on quickly and closing opponents down were interesting, because that's two things that Grealish doesn't do well. He's very skilful on the ball, but does tend to hang on to it, looking to open the defence up with the next pass. And I don't think he's great at defending. Grealish is a great talent, but tends to play as an individual and there may be difficulty in fitting him into a team pattern, at the top level. I'm not saying Southgate is right. I'm just saying that I think these are the reasons he's hesitant about Grealish. The likes of us tend to focus on what a player does, whereas managers will be more aware of what a player isn't doing. Again, I'm not saying he's right, so take it easy please. Not sure what you're getting at here? I mean he agrguably plays at the top level now PL, and he's just played really well for England. We'll be wasting a talent if Southgate goes down this pass. It's his job to fit him into the team. It's not like. It is. Any other country would, you don’t just shun talent like that. We’ve been doing it for years and then going “how come we don’t produce players like ‘insert country’. We do sometimes. We need to use them It's the implication that he's not doing his job if he doesn't fit Grealish into the team. He's doing his job to the letter. You may think he's doing it wrong, but you don't employ him. Maybe you could buy the FA and make that his prime objective. But it sounds to me that he had a good game so I find a tad obsessive to criticise Southgate's handling of his introduction to international football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 The fuck is that linesman playing at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 That offside decision was mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just seen the England team, fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Pen. England horrendous with Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dier's shite isn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Thought the same but the blocking of the view made more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dier is bloody awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just seen the England team, fucking hell. How is he getting away with it? Its laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Thought the same but the blocking of the view made more sense. That wasn't offside either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Eric Dier Utterly average player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dier is bloody awful. Not only is he a DM buts a not very good DM. Imagine being a CB being left out for Eric Dier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 How're Rice and Dier in the team? Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dier's shite isn't he Had a good spell for a couple of months about 5 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Thought the same but the blocking of the view made more sense. That wasn't offside either Bring back VAR I thought he’d strayed beyond Trippier mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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