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Tough enough group like. You're probably the fourth best team. The group standings reflect the quality of the teams.

 

Disagree. Scotland looked far better in the two games against Ireland, played well against Poland home & away, and played just as well (if not better), in their two games against Germany than Ireland, despite the 4 points.

Ireland were the better team against Scotland in Dublin, and even in Glasgow it's not like they were carving us open time and time again. Two tight games and then we didn't shit ourselves at the sight of qualification

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Silly praise for that England goal. Praising a defensive lapse then a poorly weighted pass from Vardy (any decent/motivated defender wouldn't have let Sterling get across him so easily).

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Skjelbred spending a good five minutes in the pre Norway-Malta match show explaining why Newcastle used to be the absolute best and made him want to be a footballer. Ginola, Robert, Shearer :sweetjesus:

 

I really can't fathom how much we've fallen.

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Krul and Wijnaldum both playing for Holland on Sky Sports 2 for any interested.

Need to win or they are out.

They go into that game with that possibility. If they don't win and Turkey do then they are out, Turkey KO after this game.
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