captainhaircut Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Are we genuinely looking at Bigi as converting to right back or is it just because we have no fit defenders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Partnered with our 'budget' mainstay of the defense (Willo) is a baptism of fire for any young centre-half. Tough situation for Lascalles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 How did we actually play? Not too concerned with the result as it's pre season and it happens but did we play like shite as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Did Dummett play at CB, I feel that's by far his best position? I feel Pardew's little winning streak at the start of last season was down to Dummett playing CB with Colo, as well as Abeid being given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 It was a sloppy match versus a team happy to slide into tackles and dive into rash 50/50 challenges. Our players looked then shit scared of getting hurt and played even sloppier. Full Backs: Janmaat and Haidara got forward well, but looked very rusty. Not concerned with these positions as Haidara is also returning form injury himself. Center Backs: It's Either Colo + New CB, Dummett + New CB or 2 New CBs. Simple as that. CM - Can't play Colback + Anita. Both of whom were sloppy in possession and gave the ball away far too much. Wijnaldum + 1 of them is clearly the way forward partnering with Anita, Colback, Tiote, Abeid I imagine. Again, I'd even welcome adding someone else here if we strengthened elsewhere. Sissoko, whatever his position was, was sloppy again - gets in to right place but place a lazy pass over and over. Attack: Cisse looked lively, he was getting involved everywhere. But his passing will always be hit or miss. De Jong looked good, he's far more intelligent than anyone we've got out there. Gouffran, . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 How did we actually play? Not too concerned with the result as it's pre season and it happens but did we play like s**** as well? Sloppy in possession, tried to play it out the back for the most part. Didn't help that Atlas players were trying to fuck someone up all match. There's def an emphasis on pressing the ball and playing quick passing and movement in the attacking 3rd. It was glaringly obvious who needs replaced etc. See my post above for a little more detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Cheers Kanji. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Put it this way...Aarons, Armstrong, Obertan and Perez made it hard on themselves not to score as well. They carved out some decent changes as well. Obertan of course, if he had any footballing brain would just use his f***ing pace and attack the goal. When I sit and think about it, I'm just very disappointed in Colback and Anita. They looked lost out there if I'm honest. Even simple passes missed or behind or in front of the man that forced us to lose possession or slow an attack down. Grinds my gears when our players consistently do that - not playing the ball correctly slows us down far too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The pair of them are just not very good Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I had 0 expectations for them, but jesus they were overrun by fucking Atlas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Coloccini still our second best centre half by a mile And that's if they even view Dummett as a centre half Don't let Ronaldo hear you, he had an epileptic fit when I suggested it a couple of days ago. He's not good enough but until we bring someone else in he starts out of our current centre backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lascalles is far far far from ready for PL. he looks slow and awkward on the ball too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lascalles is far far far from ready for PL. he looks slow and awkward on the ball too. So in other words he'll fit right in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lascalles is far far far from ready for PL. he looks slow and awkward on the ball too. Maybe he'll look better with someone like Colo next to him who might compliment him better than the clumsy and nervous Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Yeah maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm not one for sticking up for the club but it is worth remembering that Atlas are a) a decent outfit and b) start their season next weekend. So you'd imagine they were always going to look sharper etc. This pre-season needs to be about use of the ball, movement off it, forming new partnerships within the team you'd think but with the line-ups we're using there doesn't look to be much hope of this either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lascalles is far far far from ready for PL. he looks slow and awkward on the ball too. Maybe he'll look better with someone like Colo next to him who might compliment him better than the clumsy and nervous Williamson. Hopefully. It really is an absolute attrocity that Williamson has played at this level more than a handful of times, let alone the number of appearances he's clocked up for us. Literally, the only thing I can think is that every day in training he's like Franco Baresi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The first half an hour of this match an actually half decent side would have frigging raped us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I know it was only the second pre season game and they were all a little rusty, but the same old defensive mistakes were glaringly obvious (As well as not being able to put away chances). These two areas have to be addressed before we play Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Gutted I missed this, did anyone look like they might be canny as a person? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Gutted I missed this, did anyone look like they might be canny as a person? Don't fret, you can watch the archive. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm not one for sticking up for the club but it is worth remembering that Atlas are a) a decent outfit and b) start their season next weekend. So you'd imagine they were always going to look sharper etc. This pre-season needs to be about use of the ball, movement off it, forming new partnerships within the team you'd think but with the line-ups we're using there doesn't look to be much hope of this either. Atlas were not a decent outfit for this evidence. Yes they scored a good goal for their second. But they press us high up the pitch played the game like it was the cup final, tried to kick lumps out of us and even time wasted in a friendly !! We dominated possession, especially in that second half, they lacked any real quality outside the goals and once when they hit the bar. They gave the ball away cheaply, basically I would put them on a par with a championship side. They won the game because they were much more up for it than we were, they were a lot more match fit and we were waseful in our possession, we had more than enough chances to win the game for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 What formation did we play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 What formation did we play? 4-5-1 sissoko on right, waste of fucking time on the left, De Jong just behind Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 ah these are mexican 1st division? had no idea, thought they were some second or third tier bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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