St1pe Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I don't think he's got a chance of getting in the squad. He should be because even just on merit because he's better than most of the options that will make the squad but Southgate doesn't seem interested. His last comment about him really stuck out of me when he said something like "he wasn't looking for a quarter back" which is a pretty uninformed opinion of Shelvey's game. Throw in a couple of sendings off and him being highlighted on motd the other week and I think it'll be enough to keep him well out of the picture. A shame for him and England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Beyond funny to me that Jake Livermore, Jack Cork, Lewis Cook, and Ruben Loftus Cheek, James Ward Prowse, etc. get more looks than Shelvey has recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He's entirely unreliable but given that crop.... England has some bloody terrible centre midfielders like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Beyond funny to me that Jake Livermore, Jack Cork, Lewis Cook, and Ruben Loftus Cheek, James Ward Prowse, etc. get more looks than Shelvey has recently. He's entirely unreliable but given that crop.... England has some bloody terrible centre midfielders like. Great last couple of posts, that sum the situation up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Jonjo has his flaws but I'm glad he's delivered in the big games recently. Clearly what we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Obviously hinges on the formation and tactics seems like far too many #10s / wide midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Beyond funny to me that Jake Livermore, Jack Cork, Lewis Cook, and Ruben Loftus Cheek, James Ward Prowse, etc. get more looks than Shelvey has recently. I was listening to MOTD2 on Sunday where James Tarkowski was being touted for England ahead of Lascelles Would be intrigued to know how many of our games Southgate has actually been to this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Why's that funny? He's been class. Tarkowski, Lascelles, Mawson...all on the fringes and similar standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Why's that funny? He's been class. Tarkowski, Lascelles, Mawson...all on the fringes and similar standards. The fact that Lascelles wasn’t mentioned at all in the conversation, yet the others were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I did the "pick your England squad" on the Sky website the other day and our midfielder choices are rancid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/11288194/pundits-england-world-cup-wildcards Thompson mentions that he thinks Shelvey should go, no mention from anyone for Lascelles though. Shelvey is 10/1 fwiw, Lascelles 16/1. Harry Winks 6/4 ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/11288194/pundits-england-world-cup-wildcards Thompson mentions that he thinks Shelvey should go, no mention from anyone for Lascelles though. Shelvey is 10/1 fwiw, Lascelles 16/1. Harry Winks 6/4 ffs This sentence just describes how shite we've gotten: "I think there's a place up for grabs for a fourth forward and I could see Callum Wilson getting the edge over Glenn Murray." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How the hell nobody seems to have cottoned on to Lascelles by now I don't know. We're a completely different side with him in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I wouldn't have any Burnley defenders in the England squad. They are very organised and defenders shine there, but I don't think they're anywhere near good enough on the ball for international football. It's a Shawcross situation all over again. FWIW, I have similar reservations over Lascelles although he's improved in that department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How the hell nobody seems to have cottoned on to Lascelles by now I don't know. We're a completely different side with him in it. I asked a manyoo and Liverpool fan I was watching the Liverpool game with and they both rated him and thought he should be knocking on the England door. Is it maybe a Rafa related thing? Press and pundits have never really liked him afaik and he's certainly not getting the credit he deserves for what he's doing this season in the same way Lascelles isn't. Could add Dummett to that even, Shelvey at a push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think Rafa is generally respected in the media and among former players, what he isn’t is all cuddly or full of anecdotes like some of the other managers are. But by and large I think the overall feeling towards him at Newcastle is that he is doing a very good job, got lots of praise for staying and is considered too good for us. I’d rather the media didn’t gush over him or any of our players by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Fuck England anyway. He might want to go but does us fuck all good in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I wouldn't have any Burnley defenders in the England squad. They are very organised and defenders shine there, but I don't think they're anywhere near good enough on the ball for international football. It's a Shawcross situation all over again. FWIW, I have similar reservations over Lascelles although he's improved in that department. Yep. See Johnson & Dann at Birmingham too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 That mong at Newcastle Fans TV thinks England should call Dummett up He's already retired from Wales duty I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Not sure he was awful, but my god for a "Tehcnical player" he had a knack of not being able to control a 5 yard pass with nothing on it and letting it just bounce off him. Last I heard he was playing leftback for a Championship club. He's 28. He was a CM for us in the PL ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 shelvey's been so much better since he's started playing 10 yards further up the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That mong at Newcastle Fans TV thinks England should call Dummett up He's already retired from Wales duty I suppose. I think he technically can, as he only played in friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 If Shelvey cant make it into that 12 man midfield selection for England then he really does need to get his 2 weeks in Benidorm with the family booked straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That England squad is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Lewis Cook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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