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Norseman

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Six in a row eh.. he's such an incompetent clown.

 

Hopefully he'll get a decent run with a couple of wins, a couple of draws, to buy him a couple months of good will and then go on another unbelievable losing streak. Then, just as it looks inevitable he'll get sacked, he will again get a few flukey results to keep him in the job. Rinse and repeat for another couple years and then let's hear what the Palace fans have to say about him.

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Wallace

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Does Pardew have any idea how to build and coach a back four? We all appreciated our solidity in the first 3-4 months of last season but it's easy to forget that was the house that Chris Hughton built in terms of the defensive unit. As I said above, those players had already been playing together pretty effectively for years.

 

Pardew wants to go back to that solidity but with new players - does he have the first f***ing clue what he's meant to be doing with them structurally or was he taking credit for what was, in the main, someone else's work?

 

I posted this in 2013. He's done exactly the same at Palace, lived off Pulis's defence for a year or so then after a few personnel changes and enough time, everything completely goes to s*** and his teams eventually ship 3, 4 and 5 on a regular basis.

 

Astonishing post.

 

I have seen posts on the Crystal Palace forum that are almost verbatim to your 2013 post.Just replacing Hughton with Pulis.

 

He's still pulling the same tricks. What are his actual qualifications as a manager? Has he actually ever done anything in a learning capacity regarding badges etc?

 

I also saw a post last week on one of their forums where they said that when they look back on that amazing run when he first came in, that they had a lot of luck as a lot of those games were won by one goal where the game could have gone either way.  Exactly the same with our 5th season.

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With the players he had at Newcastle and Palace he really couldn't have done any worse.

 

Our 5th place finish was one of the flukiest things I've ever witnessed. We were somehow keeping clean sheets with Ryan Taylor and Danny Simpson as full backs, while Ba and Cisse nicked games on their own. When we did show the slightest bit of quality through Ben Arfa or Cabaye, Pardew tried to flog one and drop the other.

 

A really bizarre time and Pardew has been living off it ever since.

 

 

He still deserves some credit for that season but my days did we have a lot of luck. Cisse couldn't miss if he tried during that streak. They were flying into the top corner off his shin. His conversion rate must have be astonishing Jan-May 2012.

 

I don't think he deserves any credit for that season. He was basically living off the best parts of Hughton's organisation at the back as Wullie said, and some inspired attacking signings from Carr which merged to provide a really effective combination. Even then he managed to fuck that up within six months.

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Anything from football 365 yet, no?

 

http://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-and-losers-47

 

Alan Pardew

 

Two weeks before losing 5-4 at Swansea City, Alan Pardew spoke of his managerial style, which he insisted wouldn’t change: “Anyone who knows the way I manage, I like my teams to be on the front foot and score goals, so clean sheets have never been the top of my priority.”

 

Pardew went on to say that he would like his Palace team to keep more clean sheets, but the damage had been done. If you tell players that clean sheets aren’t a priority, don’t be surprised when they struggle to keep them. At the Liberty Stadium, five chickens came home to roost.

 

In his pre-match press conference before Saturday’s game, Pardew delved once again into his bumper bag of excuses. At Newcastle and Palace, a non-exhaustive blame list includes referees, injuries, referees for injuries, atmosphere, the Olympics, the Notting Hill carnival, the Europa League, finances, grass, science, intelligence of the local population, singing, the local press, the World Cup and the fixture list. On Thursday, it was Crystal Palace’s players who bore the brunt.

 

“Sometimes you have to look at the level I am working at,” Pardew said. “We are not a dominant club, so results are going to have ups and downs. The inconsistencies are why some players don’t play at top clubs. Top clubs have players who consistently give you seven, eight out of 10.”

 

So, in short, Palace’s run of form is not Pardew’s fault because the players are no better than their current performance. Sure.

 

Supporters may accept that excuse if Palace didn’t have the worst form in the country. They may accept it if Pardew’s team had taken more than 22 points from their last 32 league fixtures. They may accept it if Pardew had not talked recently of getting the club into the top eight, or spent £50m on new players this summer.

 

Unfairly or otherwise, and the majority would argue otherwise, this is Pardew’s reputation; this is Alan Pardew. He is a manager who enjoys taking the credit for the good times, but is only too happy to shift blame when performances and results go awry.

 

It’s easy to make the short leap that this behaviour has become Pardew’s Achilles’ heel. Each of his troughs as a manager, and there have been many, have at least partly been caused by defensive shambles. When a manager refuses to take responsibility, is it any surprise when his players fail to do the same?

 

Crystal Palace’s defending

 

After conceding five at Swansea, Pardew was vehemently defended by Phil Neville on BBC Sport.

 

“They are on a bad run, obviously, but I don’t think it is Pardew’s fault,” Neville said. “I actually feel sorry for him, because Palace’s players are letting him down big-time at the moment.

 

“Sometimes you can see a manager has picked the wrong team, is using the wrong tactics or has signed the wrong players. But those are not the reasons why Crystal Palace lost at Swansea, or why they are struggling right now. They are in this situation because their players’ application when they are defending set-pieces is nothing short of a disgrace.”

 

Neville has wilfully ignored that it is a manager’s role to get players performing well, motivate them and organise them at set-pieces, but there is the semblance of a point in there. Palace have now conceded 13 times from set-pieces this season. Not only is that the highest in the Premier League, it accounts for half of Palace’s goals conceded.

 

The question over how blame should be apportioned is an impossible one to answer, but neither party is wholly culpable and neither is blameless. Even if you feel demotivated by your current manager, professional pride must surely take over?

 

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Anything from football 365 yet, no?

 

http://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-and-losers-47

 

Alan Pardew

 

Two weeks before losing 5-4 at Swansea City, Alan Pardew spoke of his managerial style, which he insisted wouldn’t change: “Anyone who knows the way I manage, I like my teams to be on the front foot and score goals, so clean sheets have never been the top of my priority.”

 

Pardew went on to say that he would like his Palace team to keep more clean sheets, but the damage had been done. If you tell players that clean sheets aren’t a priority, don’t be surprised when they struggle to keep them. At the Liberty Stadium, five chickens came home to roost.

 

In his pre-match press conference before Saturday’s game, Pardew delved once again into his bumper bag of excuses. At Newcastle and Palace, a non-exhaustive blame list includes referees, injuries, referees for injuries, atmosphere, the Olympics, the Notting Hill carnival, the Europa League, finances, grass, science, intelligence of the local population, singing, the local press, the World Cup and the fixture list. On Thursday, it was Crystal Palace’s players who bore the brunt.

 

“Sometimes you have to look at the level I am working at,” Pardew said. “We are not a dominant club, so results are going to have ups and downs. The inconsistencies are why some players don’t play at top clubs. Top clubs have players who consistently give you seven, eight out of 10.”

 

So, in short, Palace’s run of form is not Pardew’s fault because the players are no better than their current performance. Sure.

 

Supporters may accept that excuse if Palace didn’t have the worst form in the country. They may accept it if Pardew’s team had taken more than 22 points from their last 32 league fixtures. They may accept it if Pardew had not talked recently of getting the club into the top eight, or spent £50m on new players this summer.

 

Unfairly or otherwise, and the majority would argue otherwise, this is Pardew’s reputation; this is Alan Pardew. He is a manager who enjoys taking the credit for the good times, but is only too happy to shift blame when performances and results go awry.

 

It’s easy to make the short leap that this behaviour has become Pardew’s Achilles’ heel. Each of his troughs as a manager, and there have been many, have at least partly been caused by defensive shambles. When a manager refuses to take responsibility, is it any surprise when his players fail to do the same?

 

Crystal Palace’s defending

 

After conceding five at Swansea, Pardew was vehemently defended by Phil Neville on BBC Sport.

 

“They are on a bad run, obviously, but I don’t think it is Pardew’s fault,” Neville said. “I actually feel sorry for him, because Palace’s players are letting him down big-time at the moment.

 

“Sometimes you can see a manager has picked the wrong team, is using the wrong tactics or has signed the wrong players. But those are not the reasons why Crystal Palace lost at Swansea, or why they are struggling right now. They are in this situation because their players’ application when they are defending set-pieces is nothing short of a disgrace.”

 

Neville has wilfully ignored that it is a manager’s role to get players performing well, motivate them and organise them at set-pieces, but there is the semblance of a point in there. Palace have now conceded 13 times from set-pieces this season. Not only is that the highest in the Premier League, it accounts for half of Palace’s goals conceded.

 

The question over how blame should be apportioned is an impossible one to answer, but neither party is wholly culpable and neither is blameless. Even if you feel demotivated by your current manager, professional pride must surely take over?

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In his pre-match press conference before Saturday’s game, Pardew delved once again into his bumper bag of excuses. At Newcastle and Palace, a non-exhaustive blame list includes referees, injuries, referees for injuries, atmosphere, the Olympics, the Notting Hill carnival, the Europa League, finances, grass, science, intelligence of the local population, singing, the local press, the World Cup and the fixture list. On Thursday, it was Crystal Palace’s players who bore the brunt.

 

It's even more ridiculous when you see his excuses in a list like that :lol:

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In his pre-match press conference before Saturday’s game, Pardew delved once again into his bumper bag of excuses. At Newcastle and Palace, a non-exhaustive blame list includes referees, injuries, referees for injuries, atmosphere, the Olympics, the Notting Hill carnival, the Europa League, finances, grass, science, intelligence of the local population, singing, the local press, the World Cup and the fixture list. On Thursday, it was Crystal Palace’s players who bore the brunt.

 

It's even more ridiculous when you see his excuses in a list like that :lol:

 

All thanks to SackPardew.com for publicising those excuses.

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Sometimes you have to look at the level I am working at,” Pardew said. “We are not a dominant club, so results are going to have ups and downs. The inconsistencies are why some players don’t play at top clubs. Top clubs have players who consistently give you seven, eight out of 10

 

 

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