C*CK P*SS P*RDEW

[Heron]

:lol:

[Deuce]

Winless since taking over

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

[Stifler]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

[Away Day Gadgie]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Think i disagree with that.  Pardew being there for as long as he was strengthened Ashley's grip on the club a lot. 

[joeyt]

Winless since taking over

2 goals in 6 games

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Think i disagree with that.  Pardew being there for as long as he was strengthened Ashley's grip on the club a lot.

 

That was Ashley's doing not Pardew's though. Ashley calls the shots not Pardew with relation to whether he was in the managers seat.

[54]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

Wijnaldum was never managed by Pardew.

[Stifler]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

It fucking didn’t you know. Even last season when we had the ability to rip teams apart and Rafa’s game plan we still had Pardew moments combined with Pardew players (Colback).

[Mike]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

When the contrast between his results and his self esteem stops being funny.

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

Wijnaldum was never managed by Pardew.

 

The mantaility of mercenary players using the club with no respect and using us as a stepping stone was very much Alan Pardew. Wijnaldum was one of those. We don't have that now. Bad example maybe, but an example of what Pardew's reign stood for.

[joeyt]

Pardew loved patronising us in every press conference that we couldn't compete with Southampton, Swansea etc

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

When the contrast between his results and his self esteem stops being funny.

 

That I can entirely accept.

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

It fucking didn’t you know. Even last season when we had the ability to rip teams apart and Rafa’s game plan we still had Pardew moments combined with Pardew players (Colback).

 

Okay, so Colback maybe as an anomaly but he has been entirely frozen out now. So, my point still stands.

[Stifler]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

It fucking didn’t you know. Even last season when we had the ability to rip teams apart and Rafa’s game plan we still had Pardew moments combined with Pardew players (Colback).

 

Okay, so Colback maybe as an anomaly but he has been entirely frozen out now. So, my point still stands.

Rob Elliot, the man who publically backer Pardew and said a club like us should never expect to compete at a level above relegation fighting.

[Heron]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

It fucking didn’t you know. Even last season when we had the ability to rip teams apart and Rafa’s game plan we still had Pardew moments combined with Pardew players (Colback).

 

Okay, so Colback maybe as an anomaly but he has been entirely frozen out now. So, my point still stands.

Rob Elliot, the man who publically backer Pardew and said a club like us should never expect to compete at a level above relegation fighting.

 

Fair enough, the man backed his manager. He backed what he was saying. This is the bloke that give him his "big break" though so why wouldn't he. I'm sure Rob Elliott no longer sees it that way and I'm fairly sure he realises that with a manager of Rafa's calibre that actually this club is capable of more. Pardew's "legacy" is gone man. Not all of the players might be but the mentality is.

[joeyt]

It's not individual players that Pardew's legacy has left it's the psychological damage that he's done to supporters that is still lingering.

 

He constantly undermined us, regularly tried to sell our best players in press conferences and tried to convince us that we were lucky to be supporting a Premier League team

[Carlito]

It's not individual players that Pardew's legacy has left it's the psychological damage that he's done to supporters that is still lingering.

 

He constantly undermined us, regularly tried to sel our best players in press conferences and tried to convince us that we were lucky to be supporting a Premier League team

 

[Twinport53]

When do we just forget about this chap? Out of curiosity 

 

Hope he takes West Brom down like, purely for our benefit. If he saves us, he can truly become one of our greats. Better than Rafa even.

When the club stops feeling the affects of his tenure.

 

Technically we have really. It's Ashley's tenure that we're feeling the wrath of.

Not fully. His years of mismanagement and negative tactics were largely responsible for our relegation. Since then we have struggled to bounc back to a consistent decent level of performance (not helped by Ashley). Even now some aspects of Pardew ball still creeps into the squad when the chips are down.

 

Sorry like,  but that is a load of rubbish. 

 

We've had numerous managers since, Pardew's legacy left with Pardew's mercenaries. There's not an ounce of Pardew's legacy left at Newcastle United now, it left when we sold the likes of Sissoko and Wijnaldum.

It f***ing didn’t you know. Even last season when we had the ability to rip teams apart and Rafa’s game plan we still had Pardew moments combined with Pardew players (Colback).

 

Okay, so Colback maybe as an anomaly but he has been entirely frozen out now. So, my point still stands.

 

It does when looking at the playing squad. However I still feel alot of our fan base, particularly at St James', are stuck in a Pardew / McClaren defeatist mindset.

 

We go behind and that's a guaranteed loss, booing players who play shit, jumping the gun for players like J. Murphy etc. The fact Rafa has to ask for us to stick with him proves we are so used to kicking off at the first sign of danger, mainly because we've seen it develop, stagnate and never be rectified under PFM like Pards. People can't wait to shout "Told you so" when we fail, because we've suffered years of negative tactics, mismanagement and being undermined.

 

Rafa is a different breed obviously, but some people assume his failings are equal to Pardews. The squad aren't Pards legacy, a proportion of the fan base are. Which I find ironic as people I know who complain about Rafa and his tactis, gave Pardew a mile of rope to hang himself with.

 

Negativity breeds negativity.

[Twinport53]

It's not individual players that Pardew's legacy has left it's the psychological damage that he's done to supporters that is still lingering.

 

He constantly undermined us, regularly tried to sell our best players in press conferences and tried to convince us that we were lucky to be supporting a Premier League team

 

 

What Joey said

[Stifler]

It's not individual players that Pardew's legacy has left it's the psychological damage that he's done to supporters that is still lingering.

 

He constantly undermined us, regularly tried to sell our best players in press conferences and tried to convince us that we were lucky to be supporting a Premier League team

Exactly. I don’t know how people can ever let it go. Him and Ashley drove loyal supporters away from the club. Every true football supporter knows that supporting your club is a different kind of love to what you have towards your family. Every football supporter holds their club close to their hearts. When things go bad most of us have family to fall back on and when things at home get bad we have the club to fall back on. Some of our supporters don’t have family, heck one of the supporters who died following the club to a pre-season friendly to New Zealand was said to have only supporting the club in his life. These are the types of people who Pardew took the club away away from. He made those types of people and a lot of other loyal dedicated fans walk away from the club. Some of us stayed and and made the fight against him, and the world turned against us for doing so and we will forever be branded with a tag that we don’t deserve because we made a stand. If you or others can let that go then that’s on you. I and many others, and I fucking swear down if I outlive him then his family better cremate him because I’ll be pissing on his fucking grave.

[Guest neesy111]

It takes years to get rid of legacy of managers, especially one that was with us for 4 years.

 

 

[Carlito]

It takes years to get rid of legacy of managers, especially one that was with us for 4 years.

 

 

 

It didn't take Dalglish long mind.

[Twinport53]

It's not individual players that Pardew's legacy has left it's the psychological damage that he's done to supporters that is still lingering.

 

He constantly undermined us, regularly tried to sell our best players in press conferences and tried to convince us that we were lucky to be supporting a Premier League team

Exactly. I don’t know how people can ever let it go. Him and Ashley drove loyal supporters away from the club. Every true football supporter knows that supporting your club is a different kind of love to what you have towards your family. Every football supporter holds their club close to their hearts. When things go bad most of us have family to fall back on and when things at home get bad we have the club to fall back on. Some of our supporters don’t have family, heck one of the supporters who died following the club to a pre-season friendly to New Zealand was said to have only supporting the club in his life. These are the types of people who Pardew took the club away away from. He made those types of people and a lot of other loyal dedicated fans walk away from the club. Some of us stayed and and made the fight against him, and the world turned against us for doing so and we will forever be branded with a tag that we don’t deserve because we made a stand. If you or others can let that go then that’s on you. I and many others, and I f***ing swear down if I outlive him then his family better cremate him because I’ll be pissing on his f***ing grave.

 

Stifler, your original point was around Pardews legacy in players like Colback, and then you agree it's actually the fans. Howeh