mrmojorisin75 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They were hemorrhaging money at a ridiculous rate when they were on the gravy train of the richest league on the planet and Short has had to bail them out with over £100m of his own money just to keep them going. The have a stadium which is now 20 years old and was built very cheaply (£15m iirc) and is now needing quite a bit of money spent on it and a playing squad worth very little, but costing them a fortune in salaries. To compound that, they have a supporter base that refuses to pay for tickets and as a result they generally make a loss on home cup fixtures as very few people turn up to these games as they have to charge a nominal amount for entry due to the receipts being shared. Anyone paying more than the £1 Bob Murray sold it to Drumaville for really needs their head examining. I pay for my tickets. I'm not saying there aren't a load of free tickets slung about, but 'refuse to pay' ? Complete bullshit i noticed that as well, was shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They were hemorrhaging money at a ridiculous rate when they were on the gravy train of the richest league on the planet and Short has had to bail them out with over £100m of his own money just to keep them going. The have a stadium which is now 20 years old and was built very cheaply (£15m iirc) and is now needing quite a bit of money spent on it and a playing squad worth very little, but costing them a fortune in salaries. To compound that, they have a supporter base that refuses to pay for tickets and as a result they generally make a loss on home cup fixtures as very few people turn up to these games as they have to charge a nominal amount for entry due to the receipts being shared. Anyone paying more than the £1 Bob Murray sold it to Drumaville for really needs their head examining. I pay for my tickets. I'm not saying there aren't a load of free tickets slung about, but 'refuse to pay' ? Complete bullshit Your average ticket price last season was £12 according to club accounts. To put that into perspective Gateshead of the Conference charge £15 a ticket. You are either giving away 1000s upon 1000s of tickets every week or are charging fans less than what fans of non league teams pay. It's one or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They were hemorrhaging money at a ridiculous rate when they were on the gravy train of the richest league on the planet and Short has had to bail them out with over £100m of his own money just to keep them going. The have a stadium which is now 20 years old and was built very cheaply (£15m iirc) and is now needing quite a bit of money spent on it and a playing squad worth very little, but costing them a fortune in salaries. To compound that, they have a supporter base that refuses to pay for tickets and as a result they generally make a loss on home cup fixtures as very few people turn up to these games as they have to charge a nominal amount for entry due to the receipts being shared. Anyone paying more than the £1 Bob Murray sold it to Drumaville for really needs their head examining. I pay for my tickets. I'm not saying there aren't a load of free tickets slung about, but 'refuse to pay' ? Complete bullshit Your average ticket price last season was £12 according to club accounts. To put that into perspective Gateshead of the Conference charge £15 a ticket. You are either giving away 1000s upon 1000s of tickets every week or are charging fans less than what fans of non league teams pay. It's one or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I work with a few Sunlun fans and none of them find it difficult to get free tickets, like. I have seen dozens of them passed around this past season. Never found out where they were coming from but they said on the ticket face that they were free. I would guess, from the people that brought them in to give away, that most of them came from the charity sector which is laudable but not a long-term business model, obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 'refuse to pay' surely the main issue with that post, hithere even said there's loads of free tickets around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 'refuse to pay' surely the main issue with that post, hithere even said there's loads of free tickets around Aye, fair enough That said, two or three of the blokes I'm talking about only go when they go for free, so there maybe is something to it. I've never been offered a free ticket to SJP, only ones that other people had paid for but couldn't get to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 'refuse to pay' surely the main issue with that post, hithere even said there's loads of free tickets around If thousands of them know they dont need to buy a ticket because they'll get a free one, surely they are refusing to buy one/pay for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 the club have obviously fucked up with the free ticket thing, seem to recall they started it for kids and such but they've let it snowball to keep up the pretence that they're a well supported club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Aye. Don't think they 'refuse to pay' is right to say. There maybe some fans who are resistant to paying when they know they can get free ones. There is though still plenty of fans who out there pay for their tickets. One of my uni mates has a season ticket for them and the friends of his who are Sunderland fans all have a season ticket which they pay for despite them being able to get free tickets elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They were hemorrhaging money at a ridiculous rate when they were on the gravy train of the richest league on the planet and Short has had to bail them out with over £100m of his own money just to keep them going. The have a stadium which is now 20 years old and was built very cheaply (£15m iirc) and is now needing quite a bit of money spent on it and a playing squad worth very little, but costing them a fortune in salaries. To compound that, they have a supporter base that refuses to pay for tickets and as a result they generally make a loss on home cup fixtures as very few people turn up to these games as they have to charge a nominal amount for entry due to the receipts being shared. Anyone paying more than the £1 Bob Murray sold it to Drumaville for really needs their head examining. I pay for my tickets. I'm not saying there aren't a load of free tickets slung about, but 'refuse to pay' ? Complete bullshit There's a massive section of your fanbase refuse to pay for tickets, hence the £12 average ticket price (wasn't that what it worked out at when they released their latest financial accounts?) and one of the lowest annual gate revenues in the Premiership. Whether you personally pay for your ticket or not has nothing to do with it. Thousands of your fans get in for fuck all and even those lot decided against it from Christmas onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 still nee manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 still nee manager likely spoken to a few , and told them what the state of play is- hence- what you said.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 still nee manager I'm not the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Weren't we saying the same thing this time last year? They didn't appoint Moyes until late July giving him the minimum amount of time to prepare for the season ahead. Hopefully they'll do the same again this summer and it'll have a similar outcome come next May. Having said that like, The Championship is a "pub league" so they'll have no problems getting promoted whatever happens with the managerial situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 If they hadn't houndedglassed Murray out they'd probably be in a better position that they are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I know a Sunderland season ticket holder and a Sunderland free loader (his brother works for the academy in admin and he gets 3 free tickets per home game ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Weren't we saying the same thing this time last year? They didn't appoint Moyes until late July giving him the minimum amount of time to prepare for the season ahead. Hopefully they'll do the same again this summer and it'll have a similar outcome come next May. Having said that like, The Championship is a "pub league" so they'll have no problems getting promoted whatever happens with the managerial situation. I don't think they will have ANY chance of getting promoted. Proper big clubs like Leeds (for years) and Aston Villa, and lots of other clubs with good teams, get nowhere near promotion. Sunderland, it they are lucky, might well be mid table next season, from what I can see! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 14/1 to be relegated, considering they have no manager, have lost most of their first team on free transfers, any players left that are worth anything over £1 will be sold, probably will have gates of about 16000 cheering the off and an owner that seems to have totally washed his hands of them it seems like a canny bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Their new home shirt is horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 holy fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 holy f*** Nasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 The replies on their Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Narrow stripes, plain back. It's absolutely awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Looks like a beach tea towel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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