Crumpy Gunt Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Rafa can only play with what he's got and half of this team are not fit for purpose. Another massive clear out needed if and when we go up Its the tactics and style of play that stifle the performance. Your telling me that what Rafa has at his disposal after all the money HE has spent that we shouldn't already be home and dry? This place would be in f***ing meltdown if any of our recent managers had pulled that result / performance yesterday. Would you rather he wasn't manager then, maybe have one of those previous idiots in charge? We're almost about to go back up at the first attempt which is vital for our clubs existence and we have been a basket case of a club for years. Surely you need to look at the bigger picture? We went in to yesterday 10 points clear of 3rd place? We should be on the front foot from the off....boring negative shit - the back four passin sideways one way then the other how many fucking times? Ask that back 4 to do some basic defending and they couldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Rafa can only play with what he's got and half of this team are not fit for purpose. Another massive clear out needed if and when we go up Its the tactics and style of play that stifle the performance. Your telling me that what Rafa has at his disposal after all the money HE has spent that we shouldn't already be home and dry? This place would be in f***ing meltdown if any of our recent managers had pulled that result / performance yesterday. Would you rather he wasn't manager then, maybe have one of those previous idiots in charge? We're almost about to go back up at the first attempt which is vital for our clubs existence and we have been a basket case of a club for years. Surely you need to look at the bigger picture? We went in to yesterday 10 points clear of 3rd place? We should be on the front foot from the off....boring negative s*** - the back four passin sideways one way then the other how many f***ing times? Ask that back 4 to do some basic defending and they couldn't. I wouldn't disagree with you, yesterday was awful. Our away record speaks for itself tough surely, in he most we've been immense away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Norwich, Aston Villa. There but for the grace of God Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Norwich, Aston Villa. There but for the grace of God The grace of Rafa TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Norwich, Aston Villa. There but for the grace of God The grace of Rafa TBF. Yip. That's what i meant. Not possible to overestimate the job he has done in turning what was a husk of an institution round in such a short space of time. So it's a bit functional, so fucking what! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? The point I was making was that everyone talks about us pissing it back then so I was curious to see what the difference is points was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? The point I was making was that everyone talks about us pissing it back then so I was curious to see what the difference is points was. I appreciate that. Bigger I'd think as we were promoted over Easter. Some folk are using things like this as a stick to beat Rafa with is all - and i just don't think comparisons are valid, either in terms of our position as a club or the make up of the league. I'm a bit defensive of Rafa - sorry if you're not one of the naysayers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? The point I was making was that everyone talks about us pissing it back then so I was curious to see what the difference is points was. 17 Clear of 3rd with a game in hand last time at this point. We were on 89 points & with 48 GD, so bit better all around. Same amount of wins though, it's all draws. Considering we largely kept together much of a prem side that season though, compared to changing near our entire team this i'd say Rafa's done very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? The point I was making was that everyone talks about us pissing it back then so I was curious to see what the difference is points was. 17 Clear of 3rd with a game in hand last time at this point. We were on 89 points & with 48 GD, so bit better all around. Same amount of wins though, it's all draws. Considering we largely kept together much of a prem side that season though, compared to changing near our entire team this i'd say Rafa's done very well. Not to mention he's had to turn around a losing mentality that has festered for years. Club has been rotten to the core for years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is anyone who is critical able to name any manager who would be doing a better job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is anyone who is critical able to name any manager who would be doing a better job? Steve "bulldog" Bruce ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/02/13/2739F3AE00000578-3022753-image-a-28_1427976661720.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is anyone who is critical able to name any manager who would be doing a better job? Steve "bulldog" Bruce ? That'll be the same one who until very recently was doing extremely poorly with a Villa side that was expected to be in the top two? His dinosaur tactics have been ridiculed by the Villa support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is anyone who is critical able to name any manager who would be doing a better job? Steve "bulldog" Bruce ? That'll be the same one who until very recently was doing extremely poorly with a Villa side that was expected to be in the top two? His dinosaur tactics have been ridiculed by the Villa support. But I think his ability to eat two chips more than a pig would catch Ashley's eye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Norwich, Aston Villa. There but for the grace of God Villa spent an absolute fortune as well in the summer and another fortune in January. Rafa wasn't backed in January when we needed more in and it's been a battle since but well on course for automatic promotion with over 90 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 points clear of third with five matches left but we should be home and dry. Hmm. Exactly. How many points of 3rd were we clear last time after this many games out of curiosity? Apples, I'd like to introduce you to oranges Possibly the worst ever use of this phrase. You think the 2 scenarios are directly comparable Ian, really? The point I was making was that everyone talks about us pissing it back then so I was curious to see what the difference is points was. I appreciate that. Bigger I'd think as we were promoted over Easter. Some folk are using things like this as a stick to beat Rafa with is all - and i just don't think comparisons are valid, either in terms of our position as a club or the make up of the league. I'm a bit defensive of Rafa - sorry if you're not one of the naysayers. I think last time we were more a mid-table Premier League side with the likes of Nolan, Barton and Butt who were competitive leaders and able to dominate the Championship and the likes of Andy Carroll, Jose Enrique and Colo were all superb and the squad was well managed by Hughton. That side should never have gone down but were so badly managed. It was a better side than we have now. Apart from Shelvey there's not a great deal of Premier League quality and he'd have struggled to get into that side of 09/10. We've signed more solid pros to get the job done and hope that the manager is backed in the summer to sign the quality needed to do well in the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Butt and Barton dominated the Championship? Aye, OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Barton who played a sum total of 12 games. Honestly the shite that is talked about him by some of our fans is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 The single biggest revision among fans in our recent history, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 A lot of the players here this season were bought for this division. It shouldn't be that much of a shock that they won't be good enough to do much in the premier league. Despite losing yesterday we are going up, so job done basically. There'll be big changes to the squad next season and that's when we'll see a real Rafa team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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