Guest firetotheworks Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 learning process? f***ing bullshit. Anyone in the first team squad who needs to learn shouldn't be there. Ridiculous comment as per. Surely we should have learned last season how to beat championship teams away from home. We haven't improved, they have. They're much less of a championship team than we are at the moment. The Aldi Klopp must know what he's doing then. They've improved by spending money on new players, if it wasn't already obvious from what I said. Weve only spent £10m less and they had more work to do. Only £10m Disagree about them needing to buy more as well. I'd have replaced everyone bar Ritchie, Shelvey, and Gayle and even then they wouldn't have been guaranteed starts. If you were a Huddersfield town fan you'd be asking for the whole team to be replaced, or did they have a better squad than ours last year? I'm not a Huddersfield Town fan so I can't answer that, but again, they've spent £10m more than us and are a much smaller club who are here for the first time. Is that the measure of us as a club and our spending?? Exactlyoint are you making here? The point is the much smaller club with shitter players and the Aldi Klopp have 6pts on the board and we've got sweet fa. Rafa needs to do more with what he's got. Shitter players? We've already established that they've improved upon their team. If that's your point then it's a poor one. So have we. I'm sure if we bought their players People wouldn't be happy and would want more. Still done a number on us though. Apparently it doesn't matter who they buy we'll be ahead of them by xmas anyway. Well no, because we haven't improved anywhere near to the level required, that's the fucking point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Chaps any chance you could stop quoting me in your debate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm gonna assume he was talking about Mourinho in that interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm frustrated by today, but it's always reassuring when you have a manager who clearly knows the issue. As he said, Mooy was simply given too much space. That single error & we don't lose today. Was the only time he got that much space the entire game aswell. Would never have been a fun game, but as has been said that's how we ground out away wins last season. 1 error and missed our chances is the summation of the game really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 No interview today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm frustrated by today, but it's always reassuring when you have a manager who clearly knows the issue. As he said, Mooy was simply given too much space. That single error & we don't lose today. Was the only time he got that much space the entire game aswell. Would never have been a fun game, but as has been said that's how we ground out away wins last season. 1 error and missed our chances is the summation of the game really. The main summation is the glaring lack of quality throughout the whole squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What I noticed the most today was Rafa's badge of Nufc pointing down in his interview after the match ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 https://www.nufc.co.uk/nufc-tv/latest-videos/rafas-review-huddersfield-a-reaction-17-18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The "Aldi Klopp" has done an unbelievable job there like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 learning process? f***ing bullshit. Anyone in the first team squad who needs to learn shouldn't be there. Ridiculous comment as per. Surely we should have learned last season how to beat championship teams away from home. We haven't improved, they have. They're much less of a championship team than we are at the moment. The Aldi Klopp must know what he's doing then. They've improved by spending money on new players, if it wasn't already obvious from what I said. Weve only spent £10m less and they had more work to do. Only £10m Disagree about them needing to buy more as well. I'd have replaced everyone bar Ritchie, Shelvey, and Gayle and even then they wouldn't have been guaranteed starts. If you were a Huddersfield town fan you'd be asking for the whole team to be replaced, or did they have a better squad than ours last year? Ps £10m is half the amount we need to spend on just one player this window to spark some life in to the team. However with what he's got he should be winning games like this, no excuses. He stated that both Huddersfield and Reading had better squads than ours last season Who did? You did. Ah right, squads. Yeah, I stand by it. Even at that level, beyond Shelvey, Gayle, Ritchie, and Clark, most of our players were average Championship players. So as you'd expect, they're not likely to do all that well in the Premier League now that they haven't been improved upon. I'm very much of a 'Rafa has worked wonders with what he has' mindset, whereas it seems like you seem to think all of the team's problems are tactical. Fair enough, you do you and all that. This is just nonsense like. I accept that the squad of last season had a few glaring deficiencies in certain positions but it was comfortably and objectively better than the likes of Huddersfield and Reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The criticism's of this season's start are exactly the same as this time last season. Started off too tentative and too passive. He changed it in the third game last season, so hopefully he does the same this time. Can't just throw the same front 4 at it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 learning process? f***ing bullshit. Anyone in the first team squad who needs to learn shouldn't be there. Ridiculous comment as per. Surely we should have learned last season how to beat championship teams away from home. We haven't improved, they have. They're much less of a championship team than we are at the moment. The Aldi Klopp must know what he's doing then. They've improved by spending money on new players, if it wasn't already obvious from what I said. Weve only spent £10m less and they had more work to do. Only £10m Disagree about them needing to buy more as well. I'd have replaced everyone bar Ritchie, Shelvey, and Gayle and even then they wouldn't have been guaranteed starts. If you were a Huddersfield town fan you'd be asking for the whole team to be replaced, or did they have a better squad than ours last year? Ps £10m is half the amount we need to spend on just one player this window to spark some life in to the team. However with what he's got he should be winning games like this, no excuses. He stated that both Huddersfield and Reading had better squads than ours last season Who did? You did. Ah right, squads. Yeah, I stand by it. Even at that level, beyond Shelvey, Gayle, Ritchie, and Clark, most of our players were average Championship players. So as you'd expect, they're not likely to do all that well in the Premier League now that they haven't been improved upon. I'm very much of a 'Rafa has worked wonders with what he has' mindset, whereas it seems like you seem to think all of the team's problems are tactical. Fair enough, you do you and all that. This is just nonsense like. I accept that the squad of last season had a few glaring deficiencies in certain positions but it was comfortably and objectively better than the likes of Huddersfield and Reading. Opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Asking Rafa to make a team out of 3m right backs and 5m strikers is like giving Lewis Hamilton a Ford Fiesta for Formula 1. He's not an miracle worker and this team and the squad simply isn't fit for the purpose of Rafa who is a world class manager. It's fucking dumb and we risk going down because the fat Cunt of an owner is a nasty lieing shit bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 learning process? f***ing bullshit. Anyone in the first team squad who needs to learn shouldn't be there. Ridiculous comment as per. Surely we should have learned last season how to beat championship teams away from home. We haven't improved, they have. They're much less of a championship team than we are at the moment. The Aldi Klopp must know what he's doing then. They've improved by spending money on new players, if it wasn't already obvious from what I said. Weve only spent £10m less and they had more work to do. Only £10m Disagree about them needing to buy more as well. I'd have replaced everyone bar Ritchie, Shelvey, and Gayle and even then they wouldn't have been guaranteed starts. If you were a Huddersfield town fan you'd be asking for the whole team to be replaced, or did they have a better squad than ours last year? Huddersfield are still s*** as well despite their opening two wins. Let's see where they are by Christmas. 30 odd points is probably enough to be safe so they're well set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 They only have 6 don't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He needs to be more flexible with regards to his formation and set up. We don't have the players for 4-2-3-1 and looking at the way other sides in the league are going, 3 at the back is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Us going 3 at the back with blob in goal would be terrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 They only have 6 don't they? That's them safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Staggering how McClaren was given such riches (net) and Rafa has been given such a paltry sum to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Aye but we sing Rafa's name and Ashley can't be having that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Regardless of the level of investment in the squad, Rafa has to take his share of the blame for the result yesterday. There were too many selection mistakes and an impotent tactical plan, especially bearing in mind we comfortably beat the same team 5 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We got 2 early goals and just sat in our box as they struggle to break teams down though. Yesterday we were just really sloppy in posession and not fast or clever enough on the break. Elliott's distribution was laughable, Gayle is fucked (hopefully not for good), Atsu was useless, Shelvey is an idiot. I'd like to say it was one of those games but it happened too frequently last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Wish we'd at least try to give them a game. Fair enough setting up for a 0-0 and not having any of the ball against Tottenham but there was no need for it yesterday and we just did exactly what they wanted us to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Lots of issues yesterday, too many players not performing but it seemed that we didn't want it enough imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It looked exactly like an 11 that had never played together. The issue wasn't helped by playing the wingers the wrong way round and Mbemba at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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