Guest neesy111 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 For the price we paid for him, he's been an absolutely fantastic signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Liked him getting forward when we went with the midfield 3. In general we need to keep the ball a bit better so this is where he'll need to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Positive game for Hayden, really pure strike for the goal - he enjoyed that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Is it just me or was he playing the furthest forward of the 3 central midfielders for a while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Is it just me or was he playing the furthest forward of the 3 central midfielders for a while? Yeah after Perez went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Smuggler Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He always looks fucking knackered after about an hour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I know it's his first season at this level but struggling to see him as a starter. Doesn't really impose himself, doesn't seem to protect the back four, is hardly box-to-box and seems slow on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's not a starter but I quite like him, he's always reliable and he's half decent on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's very very average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'm not sure I've seen him attempt a pass over 15-20 yards either. I know we've got Shelvey & Merino for creativity but should be expecting more imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not even creativity. His passing just has no purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I thought he was good yesterday, he seemed to be everywhere picking up loose balls in midfield and pressing quickly. I'm not really one for using stats but i thought i'd try and find some to try and back up what i'm saying as i had a few drinks before the match so my opinion could've been blurred. Pass completion - 79% (43 passes) Key passes - 2 Long passes - 0 Dribbles - 0 Tackles - 2 Interceptions - 2 Clearances - 5 Disposessed - 1 Shots - 1 He's quite a limited player but i think his mobility and defensive insticts are important to us at the minute, especially when Shelvey is in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'm not sure I've seen him attempt a pass over 15-20 yards either. I know we've got Shelvey & Merino for creativity but should be expecting more imo. I disagree, he's probably the only out and out defensive midfielder in the line up, if we aren't creating much, probably need to look at what the others are bringing to the table. Atsu and Ritchie should be the main providers, and you'd want more from the full backs as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 79% isn't a good pass completion rate considering the types of passes he attempts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He isn't an out and out defensive midfielder though. He runs forward a lot leaving us exposed on the counter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I like when he breaks forward mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He isn't an out and out defensive midfielder though. He runs forward a lot leaving us exposed on the counter If he's doing that, then he'll be dropped pretty sharpish, Rafa doesn't tolerate players who don't stick to the team shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's another player who would be fine if we weren't so creatively bereft elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's another player who would be fine if we weren't so creatively bereft elsewhere. So where are creatively bereft? I keep hearing that our midfielders are playing fine but as a unit I see them creating a shocking lack of chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not sure what you're asking? We are creatively bereft in all areas of the pitch other than Jonjo Shelvey with Merino out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I like Hayden and I think he'll improve but I'm not sure what sort of centre-midfielder he's supposed to be yet; he seems a bit of a jack-of-all/master-of-none type without any attributes that especially stand out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He isn't an out and out defensive midfielder though. He runs forward a lot leaving us exposed on the counter If he's doing that, then he'll be dropped pretty sharpish, Rafa doesn't tolerate players who don't stick to the team shape. :lol: so shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not sure what you're asking? We are creatively bereft in all areas of the pitch other than Jonjo Shelvey with Merino out. Ok, wasn't pointed at you but in general I read Ritchie''s fine, Atsu's fine etc but as a unit I don't see many chances created by them in the last 6 games. So the question is if they are playing fine, where's the issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not sure what you're asking? We are creatively bereft in all areas of the pitch other than Jonjo Shelvey with Merino out. Ok, wasn't pointed at you but in general I read Ritchie''s fine, Atsu's fine etc but as a unit I don't see many chances created by them in the last 6 games. So the question is if they are playing fine, where's the issue? That's a very fair point, like. As a unit they're nowhere near effective enough. What we have is one winger who can occasionally beat a man and does have pace to get in behind, but has plenty of days where he just isn't effective enough (Atsu). And another winger who is tidy, tenacious, alright from dead balls - but can't beat a man and rarely/never offers a goal threat (Ritchie). Meanwhile there's Hayden, who has potential but no stand-out attributes or creativity. Then Shelvey, who's a good player, who has the burden of the whole team's play-making and offers next to no goal threat. And aside from Merino there's absolutely fuck all waiting in the wings (Diame and Murphy, both shite, Colback and Aarons, shite/out-of-favour). Each one of the four yesterday are varying shades of 'fine', but as you say, it isn't enough as a unit. And with absolutely fuck all ahead of them, it's a struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not sure what you're asking? We are creatively bereft in all areas of the pitch other than Jonjo Shelvey with Merino out. Ok, wasn't pointed at you but in general I read Ritchie''s fine, Atsu's fine etc but as a unit I don't see many chances created by them in the last 6 games. So the question is if they are playing fine, where's the issue? That's a very fair point, like. As a unit they're nowhere near effective enough. What we have is one winger who can occasionally beat a man and does have pace to get in behind, but has plenty of days where he just isn't effective enough (Atsu). And another winger who is tidy, tenacious, alright from dead balls - but can't beat a man and rarely/never offers a goal threat (Ritchie). Meanwhile there's Hayden, who has potential but no stand-out attributes or creativity. Then Shelvey, who's a good player, who has the burden of the whole team's play-making and offers next to no goal threat. And aside from Merino there's absolutely fuck all waiting in the wings (Diame and Murphy, both shite, Colback and Aarons, shite/out-of-favour). Each one of the four yesterday are varying shades of 'fine', but as you say, it isn't enough as a unit. And with absolutely fuck all ahead of them, it's a struggle. This is why I think people might be focusing too much on the striker issues (we have issues there, no doybt) but the midfield isn't helping them with service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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