Raconteur Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I remember the two FA Cup finals in 98 and 99 - even though we were rank outsiders there was still the hope that a miracle could happen. I'd just about take a spot in the final for third place and the lottery of playoffs. Lifting the cup but finishing seventh... well, it's hard to see those two things occurring, because if we're winning the cup then we clearly should be winning the Championship (or something is incredibly wrong!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 That manure one was horrible. Still remember it well, I was only 10 and watching in the local pub remember coming home almost in tears and been determined to see us make up for it one day. The semi final defeat to them in Cardiff was just as bad too and my first away game watching us, such an undeserving set of fans they are too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1-4 against Lisbon in the UEFA quarters and 1-4 against ManU in the FA Cup semis. Cracking week, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Best shot of winning a trophy was the semi against Chelsea imo. We were genuinely unlucky in that game, had we squeezed through i'm certain we would've beaten Villa in the final. Marseille with Drogba were simply the stronger side. Man Utd (final and semi) and Arsenal, too good. Sporting was only a QF but under Bobby rather than Souness we would've at least beaten Sporting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 10 points clear in the league as well coming to the home straight. Benfica we should of got past too in the QF a few year ago. Had quite a few decent efforts and chances to win something really looking back over the last 20 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 We've only been close a handful of times which is pretty poor. Every time the field has been open we've been nowhere near Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1-4 against Lisbon in the UEFA quarters and 1-4 against ManU in the FA Cup semis. Cracking week, that. A year earlier was much worse. Losing to Marseilles then drawing at home to Wolves to fuck up CL qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1-4 against Lisbon in the UEFA quarters and 1-4 against ManU in the FA Cup semis. Cracking week, that. I did those and Norwich away later that midweek which we lost 2-1 last minute! Great week! Ha ha ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a shit until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the fucking best, not because no-one else could be arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a s*** until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the f***ing best, not because no-one else could be arsed. We aren't really going to be the best though are we. Man city and Liverpool both got to the final and took it seriously last season and Arsenal Chelsea and Leicester all had a decent team out last night. The better teams take the league cup more seriously than people think. If we had beat Arsenal in the final in 99 that wouldn't of made us the best. I'm sure we came about 11th that season too. Winning that final or the league cup as a championship team would both be as good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Promotion. Cup wins are all well and good, but no one would remember it when we start the next season in the championship. I'll take promotion this year then a cup win or two during the remainder of Rafa's time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a shit until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the fucking best, not because no-one else could be arsed. Aye, fully agree with this. I'd love for us to win a trophy but not at the expense of putting the clubs future back into jeopardy Actually I'm just going to come out and say it, I think trophies are overrated. Unless you do something like Leicester City have just done then it all seems a bit meh to me. I'd be over the moon for a few days, get drunk, attend an open bus tour or whatever happens, and then watch the highlights of the win back on Youtube every now and then when I'm bored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a s*** until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the f***ing best, not because no-one else could be arsed. Aye, fully agree with this. I'd love for us to win a trophy but not at the expense of putting the clubs future back into jeopardy Actually I'm just going to come out and say it, I think trophies are overrated. Unless you do something like Leicester City have just done then it all seems a bit meh to me. I'd be over the moon for a few days, get drunk, attend an open bus tour or whatever happens, and then watch the highlights of the win back on Youtube every now and then when I'm bored. That's the pinnacle and what football supporting is about though. Doing that as opposed to what if we get promoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a s*** until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the f***ing best, not because no-one else could be arsed. Aye, fully agree with this. I'd love for us to win a trophy but not at the expense of putting the clubs future back into jeopardy Actually I'm just going to come out and say it, I think trophies are overrated. Unless you do something like Leicester City have just done then it all seems a bit meh to me. I'd be over the moon for a few days, get drunk, attend an open bus tour or whatever happens, and then watch the highlights of the win back on Youtube every now and then when I'm bored. That's the pinnacle and what football supporting is about though. Doing that as opposed to what if we get promoted? Tell that to the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a s*** until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the f***ing best, not because no-one else could be arsed. We aren't really going to be the best though are we. Man city and Liverpool both got to the final and took it seriously last season and Arsenal Chelsea and Leicester all had a decent team out last night. The better teams take the league cup more seriously than people think. If we had beat Arsenal in the final in 99 that wouldn't of made us the best. I'm sure we came about 11th that season too. Winning that final or the league cup as a championship team would both be as good Alright, I'm happy to downgrade from "the best" to "one of the best", or "competing to be one of the best". We finished 2nd the season before we finished 11th, so it's alreet. Achieving what the great Birmingham City achieved doesn't appeal to me a great deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If seeing your team finally win something after all the money miles and heartache invested isn't as good as it gets then what is? Being mid table in the premiership and trips to palace west brom etc and the odd win over manure or Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Find it absolutely mental that a supporter of a club without silverware for so long would choose a promotion over an actual cup. Does not compute with moi. Football should be about winning trophies (not the Championship). Being able to get thumped of Sky's big boys wouldn't bring as much joy as a cup win. Aye but it isn't. There are different trophies with different levels of gravitas. And winning the league cup as a Championship team is just pointless. There's no pride in winning a tournament in which half the teams barely even try. It'd be slightly different with the FA Cup, but the bigger teams still don't really give a s*** until later rounds. Just seems really pointless being the shitty club that fluked a cup. I want to win trophies because we're the f***ing best, not because no-one else could be arsed. We aren't really going to be the best though are we. Man city and Liverpool both got to the final and took it seriously last season and Arsenal Chelsea and Leicester all had a decent team out last night. The better teams take the league cup more seriously than people think. If we had beat Arsenal in the final in 99 that wouldn't of made us the best. I'm sure we came about 11th that season too. Winning that final or the league cup as a championship team would both be as good Alright, I'm happy to downgrade from "the best" to "one of the best", or "competing to be one of the best". We finished 2nd the season before we finished 11th, so it's alreet. Achieving what the great Birmingham City achieved doesn't appeal to me a great deal. I get what you meant and do understand where your coming from but I would still prefer to finally see us win something. Just my opinion of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've supported us all my life without winning a single trophy and up until about half a decade ago it was class. I loved our pointless forays into the Champions League and have probably gotten as much satisfaction out of Bellamy's goal against Feyenoord, or Albert's lob, than I will us winning a Penalty shootout against Arsenal in a League Cup final. I dunno, we finally look like we've been allowed the possibility of turning into an actual football club again, I don't want to potentially piss that away for a tier 3 trophy win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If seeing your team finally win something after all the money miles and heartache invested isn't as good as it gets then what is? Being mid table in the premiership and trips to palace west brom etc and the odd win over manure or Liverpool? Says it all about how you see our club. Happy to sacrifice the big time for the consolation of a cup. Coventry won the FA cup some time ago, what a fucking glory. We've got Rafa man, stop acting like a Crystal Palace fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 For me just having the Newcastle back of around 2001 is what I want. Some exciting players. Team full of effort and desire. Known as one of the best teams in the country and up there in the top 4-6. The odd cup final and good European nights again. If we won something like that it would be all the more sweeter so I can see the argument for promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If seeing your team finally win something after all the money miles and heartache invested isn't as good as it gets then what is? Being mid table in the premiership and trips to palace west brom etc and the odd win over manure or Liverpool? Says it all about how you see our club. Happy to sacrifice the big time for the consolation of a cup. Coventry won the FA cup some time ago, what a fucking glory. We've got Rafa man, stop acting like a Crystal Palace fan. That's it in a nutshell like Rafa Benitez is saying he wants stay here long term, turn the club around and win trophies. That's what I want my club to be, not a Championship side that has won the fucking League Cup (although would be a lush bonus). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If seeing your team finally win something after all the money miles and heartache invested isn't as good as it gets then what is? Being mid table in the premiership and trips to palace west brom etc and the odd win over manure or Liverpool? Says it all about how you see our club. Happy to sacrifice the big time for the consolation of a cup. Coventry won the FA cup some time ago, what a f***ing glory. We've got Rafa man, stop acting like a Crystal Palace fan. Haha that sounds like something I would say or did say not too long ago. I see Newcastle as one of the top 5 clubs in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 We can cope with cup run and the champo imo. We won't muller teams but we'll hit our stride soon and improve in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Promotion. You have to think of the clubs long term future and that's with Rafa. I honestly think a cup will come if we can get promoted and have Rafa build a strong top flight squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I get that the fans now have a lot more optimism and hope long term. But I do wonder how this poll would have looked under Pardew/Carver/McClaren. If the options were staying up or winning a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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