joeyt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Rugby is shite though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Rugby is shite though Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You don't even have to go that small; throw-ins and corners are disputed many, many times in every game. And yet both can lead directly to a goal (in the case of throw-ins, consider long throws, or quick throws to bypass the offside rule). So do we check throw-ins and corners with VAR before they are taken? Only go back if they lead to a goal? How far back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous It's true like. For example, if you watch BTTF, before they go back in time, the place is called Twin Pines Mall, however, because in 1955 Marty McFly accidentally hits one of the pines, when he goes back to the future it's called Lone Pine Mall. Small details are fucking huge man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You do in Rugby League which is a rapid fast flowing sport, as it is without rucks and mauls, and it's no worse for it. Even if the ref gets decisions wrong, as in offside or knock ons. Those decisions stay as they are, no need for Football to be any different imo. Isn't that a bit daft though. Bring it in for some decisions but not others.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous It's true like. For example, if you watch BTTF, before they go back in time, the place is called Twin Pines Mall, however, because in 1955 Marty McFly accidentally hits one of the pines, when he goes back to the future it's called Lone Pine Mall. Small details are fucking huge man. How long have you been a dick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You do in Rugby League which is a rapid fast flowing sport, as it is without rucks and mauls, and it's no worse for it. Even if the ref gets decisions wrong, as in offside or knock ons. Those decisions stay as they are, no need for Football to be any different imo. Posted this before, whenever I watch rugby league it seems like every single try is reviewed. It's almost like a feature on Sky. Don't watch loads, maybe it's just a coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 How long before there's adverts during the decision-making progress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You don't even have to go that small; throw-ins and corners are disputed many, many times in every game. And yet both can lead directly to a goal (in the case of throw-ins, consider long throws, or quick throws to bypass the offside rule). So do we check throw-ins and corners with VAR before they are taken? Only go back if they lead to a goal? How far back? Better Still an innocuous foul could lead to a booking which could be a second yellow. Will that be reviewed. Will a second booking for time wasting be reviewed to see if he really was hobbling etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Not going to be long before Liverpool fans start calling for the return of Rafa. Think they turn on Klopp very soon now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 The one, the only, Alan Scott Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Imagine losing to Pardew with that team. Awful stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Did I hear some booing there ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 VAR MOTM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Did I hear some booing there ? Liverpool fans never boo......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You do in Rugby League which is a rapid fast flowing sport, as it is without rucks and mauls, and it's no worse for it. Even if the ref gets decisions wrong, as in offside or knock ons. Those decisions stay as they are, no need for Football to be any different imo. Isn't that a bit daft though. Bring it in for some decisions but not others.? Not really when you watch it, it's a different sport but the premise of the smaller decisions is valid when you watch a Rugby League match, you never really notice. With Vars it's never going to be liked by some, and this is what ? the 6th match used in this country. If they can iron out the delay in decisions and get it right i don't see why it can't be a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I can't wait until it's a mere 2:30 before I can celebrate goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I don't think it will be a success unless they analyse every single slightly controversial decision in every match. Which would severely disrupt any flow the game has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I'm not. I know you aren't really x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Sewelly makes really good points about how smaller decisions are game-changing decisions too as well as bigger decisions because the game is constantly flowing. You can't just ignore the smaller decisions so if VAR comes in place surely it should be looking at every decision in the match. Which would be torturous You do in Rugby League which is a rapid fast flowing sport, as it is without rucks and mauls, and it's no worse for it. Even if the ref gets decisions wrong, as in offside or knock ons. Those decisions stay as they are, no need for Football to be any different imo. Posted this before, whenever I watch rugby league it seems like every single try is reviewed. It's almost like a feature on Sky. Don't watch loads, maybe it's just a coincidence. There are a few a match tbf, but in Rugby League you get a lot of tries a game, far more that goals in a football match on average, so that skews it a tad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Unless it's a completely computerised system that can instantly decide every decision immediately, and we can do away with referees altogether, then it's a fundamentally flawed concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 *tries to begin U! S! A! chant* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I'd eliminate the whole idea of the ref leaving the field at any point or seeing any replays because it takes ages. It should just be an earpiece and another ref advising him if he's making a clear and obvious error. That'll eliminate the most blatant f*ck ups but not all. I think the pen was far from clear and obvious and wasted time. If Firmino had scored it and it affected the result, there'd have been a lot of complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Unless it's a completely computerised system that can instantly decide every decision immediately, and we can do away with referees altogether, then it's a fundamentally flawed concept. Is there anything more flawed than a human being ? i suppose that's why Vars has been brought in, marmite this Vars is going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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