madras Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: He's shite, relative to the rest of the players in other teams starting 11's. Nobody else in the PL is taking him off our hands, ever. We probably couldn't give him away for free. Relative to ours and Liverpools ? Well he played and played OK. Wouldn't get in their team, does get in ours. Possibly would get in a few lower prem teams but age is now an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Just now, madras said: Relative to ours and Liverpools ? Well he played and played OK. Wouldn't get in their team, does get in ours. Possibly would get in a few lower prem teams but age is now an issue. Alright, calm down FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: Alright, calm down FFS You're the one being a 12yr old...."Ooooh he's shite" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Just now, madras said: You're the one being a 12yr old...."Ooooh he's shite" Because I think he's a very poor footballer. We're allowed to have different opinions, it's what makes life great. If you want me to be all grown up about it, I think his positional play is absolutely shocking, he comes inside too often so when Tino receives the ball at full back he has nowhere to go because Lord Jacob has wandered in-between two or three Liverpool players. He did that several times tonight and he's done it a shit load throughout the season. Like what Ian said there's a semi-decent player in there somewhere but we'll never see it regularly because he hasn't got what it takes. We'll see a decent game from him once or twice a season. He's Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 FWIW when he gave the ball away for their goal, Joelinton got it and gave it away a second time. Didn't really clock that at the time because I was so angry with Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Because I think he's a very poor footballer. We're allowed to have different opinions, it's what makes life great. If you want me to be all grown up about it, I think his positional play is absolutely shocking, he comes inside too often so when Tino receives the ball at full back he has nowhere to go because Lord Jacob has wandered in-between two or three Liverpool players. He did that several times tonight and he's done it a shit load throughout the season. Like what Ian said there's a semi-decent player in there somewhere but we'll never see it regularly because he hasn't got what it takes. We'll see a decent game from him once or twice a season. He's Obertan. So he's held his own at this level but is shit ? I think he's a lower level prem/top end of championship player. Re positional play tonight he was all at sea due to Tino who looks like he doesn't the ball, he just wants to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 I think the new RW needs to be primarily a left footer who will cut inside, if we keep Tino at RB. I know fans still won't stop whinging about inverted wingers but it makes the most sense IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, madras said: So he's held his own at this level but is shit ? I think he's a lower level prem/top end of championship player. Re positional play tonight he was all at sea due to Tino who looks like he doesn't the ball, he just wants to defend. You're absolutely mental here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Definitely one to file under useful as far as Murphy performances go imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 Inverted is fine but I’d prefer the new RW has a bit more to his game technically at the expense of the physical traits - unlikely we’ll be able to afford / attract both. Isak is crying out for someone who can get on the same wavelength as him and execute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 11 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Inverted is fine but I’d prefer the new RW has a bit more to his game technically at the expense of the physical traits - unlikely we’ll be able to afford / attract both. Isak is crying out for someone who can get on the same wavelength as him and execute. We need a left footer to play there someone who can cut inside and be much closer to Isak. As we've seen Isak is obviously going to struggle when isolated he isn't Big al. He is however a fantastic footballer who has shown over and over that he can not only run at defences he can also run in behind and link play. He's the truly modern complete forward and attacking wise Eddie has to absolutely create a system which plays to his strengths because tonight showed he's unplayable when we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 10 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: You're absolutely mental here. Come on man, I've called you out for going over the top on slagging someone off. The emotion of the night might have got to you, my stroppy tendencies likewise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Just now, madras said: Come on man, I've called you out for going over the top on slagging someone off. The emotion of the night might have got to you, my stroppy tendencies likewise. How was what I said going over the top though, all I said was the bloke's shite, in other words not good enough. I even said I quite like him as a person (as I think he comes across well and he seems to put in a lot of effort). We've had worse players than him, he wasn't that bad tonight but he's nowhere near good enough for where we want to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 23 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: How was what I said going over the top though, all I said was the bloke's shite, in other words not good enough. I even said I quite like him as a person (as I think he comes across well and he seems to put in a lot of effort). We've had worse players than him, he wasn't that bad tonight but he's nowhere near good enough for where we want to be. He holds his own in the Prem but you say he's shit. Righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 At least half our squad isn’t good enough for regular top 4/6 tbf. Plenty of bottom half Bruce-era players still remain and are playing well above themselves and have been since Howe turned up. They’ll be filtered out over time if we can actually spend the money we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 His mother comes from Birtley... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Murphy is a PL footballer like. He’s not a top 7/8 footballer, but he’s a solid squad player for us and wouldn’t look at all out of place in a bottom six side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 11 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Murphy is a PL footballer like. He’s not a top 7/8 footballer, but he’s a solid squad player for us and wouldn’t look at all out of place in a bottom six side. Hes a canny lad and a good pro, of course he has limitations and our ambitions extend beyond those limitations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 9 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Murphy is a PL footballer like. He’s not a top 7/8 footballer, but he’s a solid squad player for us and wouldn’t look at all out of place in a bottom six side. He's a PL footballer who doesn't seem to be wanted by many PL clubs. He's had a few good moments for us, but when he gets played regularly his lack of genuine top class output brings us down. That said, if it wasn't for all this PSR bullshit, he would be a useful squad player. It's a shame that players like this are almost being forced out of their clubs when there is no need from a financial perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Saturday at 15:28 Share Posted Saturday at 15:28 There’s stinkers then there is this, hopefully it gets better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted Saturday at 15:29 Share Posted Saturday at 15:29 Looking like a competition winner atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted Saturday at 15:32 Share Posted Saturday at 15:32 Lovely finish after the worst possible start for him. Fair play lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Saturday at 15:33 Share Posted Saturday at 15:33 Just now, M1tche said: Lovely finish after the worst possible start for him. Fair play lad If at first you don't succeed... 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Saturday at 15:37 Share Posted Saturday at 15:37 He wasn't even playing bad before the goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted Saturday at 15:37 Share Posted Saturday at 15:37 What would it take our supporters to support all our players all the time? just wondering… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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