Displayname Posted Thursday at 09:46 Share Posted Thursday at 09:46 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: Ok humour me, if you had a choice in the summer, Minteh or Murphy - straight swap - would you take it? Minteh at his age and all the potential vs Murphy, the local lad done good but at his peak? If we could get Murphy back on a season long loan then sure But for me i wouldnt atm. Never really paid any attention to Minteh though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted Thursday at 09:51 Share Posted Thursday at 09:51 (edited) Would love it if he went with 'Juicy' for his shirt name next year. Edited Thursday at 09:51 by Checko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Thursday at 10:01 Share Posted Thursday at 10:01 2 hours ago, Tsunami said: I’ve always maintained there was a player in Murphy, unless England turn into high energy pressing machine he wouldn’t fit in. Let’s just appreciate what he brings to our system. He doesn't suit England, but he's a completely different option because of his directness. Tuchel has shown early on his all about assembling a squad that gets along and has dimensions/tools to win different games. There's a valid argument on this form, he ticks those boxes. Like Bowen is probably the better player overall, but he's stinky for England and it's still a player RW cutting in (which we have Saka and Foden for). There's no-one else that can offer what he does right now for England on that RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Thursday at 10:44 Share Posted Thursday at 10:44 Not really read back up on this thread but that goal is 100% a shot - there’s no way he’s aiming a cross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Thursday at 10:48 Share Posted Thursday at 10:48 I want this version of Jacob Murphy doing this in the Champions League next season. Would be some arc from him looking like an overawed kid at Christmas hearing the CL music in the San Siro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted Thursday at 10:50 Share Posted Thursday at 10:50 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c15vk01ey01o Jacob Murphy: Does Newcastle winger deserve place in the England squad? - BBC Sport Usually you get a bit of 19vs1 voting and bias against the club on a vote, and mostly Newcastle fans are going to be clicking on a link for a Newcastle player, but when the title of article includes 'England Squad', you tend to get a lot more neutral clicks. The sentiment there is quite telling, people outside our club rate him as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Thursday at 10:54 Share Posted Thursday at 10:54 Up to fifth in our all-time PL assisters now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Thursday at 10:58 Share Posted Thursday at 10:58 Seen the quote but not seen it posted he's in my top 5 favourite ever players easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Thursday at 11:04 Share Posted Thursday at 11:04 Goes to show you what coaching paired with a player’s willingness to put in the work and be coached can do. The atmosphere Howe and his team have built and the hierarchy above him has supported is nothing short of incredible. Feel like we haven’t seen much like this in football across the top leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted Thursday at 11:06 Share Posted Thursday at 11:06 Definitely going to score the winning goal in the world cup final next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Thursday at 11:25 Share Posted Thursday at 11:25 (edited) I wonder if we'll see more goals from that angle. Keepers don't expect it. I reckon we could get away with it for the rest of the season. It would also make the keeper think twice and change focus so if you do that and switch with crosses the keeper will be on the back foot. Edited Thursday at 11:26 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted Thursday at 11:30 Share Posted Thursday at 11:30 He’s a lovely lovely lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Thursday at 11:33 Share Posted Thursday at 11:33 old school Anti-Pep winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted Thursday at 11:35 Share Posted Thursday at 11:35 It does make me wonder that when we do upgrade at RW that we'd prefer to keep a right-footed player there. It isn't the norm these days but we/he have shown it can be hugely effective. Actually love how him, Schar and Joelinton - all signings from the previous years - are mainstays in a class NUFC team. Shows the importance of coaching, confidence and belief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Thursday at 11:51 Share Posted Thursday at 11:51 Need to find someone who can properly cross the ball, it’s been a massive factor in our attacking play and has directly contributed to our goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 11:56 Share Posted Thursday at 11:56 49 minutes ago, Kanj said: Goes to show you what coaching paired with a player’s willingness to put in the work and be coached can do. The atmosphere Howe and his team have built and the hierarchy above him has supported is nothing short of incredible. Feel like we haven’t seen much like this in football across the top leagues. Their emphasis on character and mentality has been massive. This group of players is so easy to root for for that alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted Thursday at 12:12 Share Posted Thursday at 12:12 Inverted wingers tore up 4-4-2s with overlapping full backs - it's not Pep-ball but Mourinho-ball from early Chelsea days with Duff & Robben. It gets you between the space between the full back and his closed central defender. Low blocks seems to be the response to inverted wingers, because they come inside, you can sit your defensive line very narrow and leave no space to get through centrally. If a ball does come in, it's an in-swinger which is super easy for a defender to get his head on and get it away. Wide, traditional wingers seems to look like a natural counter to low blocks, because with two touches you can make room for an out-swinging cross that your entire midfield and forward line can bomb into the box for. For inverted wingers, you've only got two options, through balls in the tight spaces around the edge of the box, or a chip to the far post. You're only targeting one or two players at most with that. A traditional winger can make a chance that 3 or 4 players could feasibly get on the end of out of nowhere. The other benefit of an out-swinger is that the overhits can keep the ball in play, and will often fall to the attacking team as the defending team will have their fullback in the box defender the incoming cross, and our left sided full back or midfielder can pick it up. An overhit in-swinger is a goal kick. What Murphy brings - and I've mentioned this before in match threads - is that he plays with pace and instinct. I don't mean he runs fast, but that he moves the ball very, very quickly. It seems almost anti-Howe ball. The comparison with Trippier & Almiron is that when we broke, the ball would hit Almiron, who would turn it back to Trippier. The whole opposition defence would get themselves sorted, we'd get ourselves sorted, and we'd camp outside their low block without actually an idea of what our next step would be. When Murphy started playing in front of Trippier, Trippier took a few games to adjust because Murphy wasn't waiting for an overlap or to cut back - he was spotting the runs, the space and putting that super dangerous early ball in from out wide. It's not Murphy adjusting to playing regularly, it's the team getting used to the speed of thought and action that Murphy brings, we have a much, much more direct threat now in Murphy that we didn't have before and it's a breath of fresh air to see that incisiveness. It's picking the right tools for the job, but having wingers who can whip outswingers in to dangerous positions is something that a lot of modern defences are going to struggle with. Most of us can remember flying wingers bombing down to the byline like Gillespie, or Neville overlapping and pinging in some peaches, but the lads playing today haven't seen that in their adulthoods and are going to have to learn how to deal with it. They've been coached to defend against the inverted wingers of the past 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted Thursday at 12:39 Share Posted Thursday at 12:39 Almirons best ever patch was when he had Trippier. Murphy at the moment is unplayable, do we think in any way it's due to having a rejuvenated Trippier on that side also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted Thursday at 12:45 Share Posted Thursday at 12:45 I’m enjoying all of these posts right now because as soon as the Juice has one bad game, this place is going to turn on him like crazy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Thursday at 12:48 Share Posted Thursday at 12:48 16 hours ago, kocunar said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Thursday at 12:50 Share Posted Thursday at 12:50 2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. Front 3, innit 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Thursday at 12:55 Share Posted Thursday at 12:55 6 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. And they put Salah as at midfielder at the same time.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted Thursday at 12:56 Share Posted Thursday at 12:56 10 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: as soon as the Juice has one bad game, this place is going to turn on him like crazy Barnes too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted Thursday at 13:04 Share Posted Thursday at 13:04 1 hour ago, Kanj said: Goes to show you what coaching paired with a player’s willingness to put in the work and be coached can do. The atmosphere Howe and his team have built and the hierarchy above him has supported is nothing short of incredible. Feel like we haven’t seen much like this in football across the top leagues. Exactly this. Eddie and his staff have seen something in Murph that others haven't. It's given him the confidence to shine. That and the bonus he's playing with a world class striker who he knows will get on the end of his passes/crosses. His face says it all. He's absolutely loving his life and we're the beneficiaries of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 13:30 Share Posted Thursday at 13:30 1 hour ago, Chicken Dancer said: It does make me wonder that when we do upgrade at RW that we'd prefer to keep a right-footed player there. It isn't the norm these days but we/he have shown it can be hugely effective. Actually love how him, Schar and Joelinton - all signings from the previous years - are mainstays in a class NUFC team. Shows the importance of coaching, confidence and belief. The other side of that is, if we have in inverted winger like most teams do, then Tino would come into play a lot more next season as an overlapping full back. Murphy would be the out and out right wing option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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