KaKa Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 49 minutes ago, Kanj said: Goes to show you what coaching paired with a player’s willingness to put in the work and be coached can do. The atmosphere Howe and his team have built and the hierarchy above him has supported is nothing short of incredible. Feel like we haven’t seen much like this in football across the top leagues. Their emphasis on character and mentality has been massive. This group of players is so easy to root for for that alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Inverted wingers tore up 4-4-2s with overlapping full backs - it's not Pep-ball but Mourinho-ball from early Chelsea days with Duff & Robben. It gets you between the space between the full back and his closed central defender. Low blocks seems to be the response to inverted wingers, because they come inside, you can sit your defensive line very narrow and leave no space to get through centrally. If a ball does come in, it's an in-swinger which is super easy for a defender to get his head on and get it away. Wide, traditional wingers seems to look like a natural counter to low blocks, because with two touches you can make room for an out-swinging cross that your entire midfield and forward line can bomb into the box for. For inverted wingers, you've only got two options, through balls in the tight spaces around the edge of the box, or a chip to the far post. You're only targeting one or two players at most with that. A traditional winger can make a chance that 3 or 4 players could feasibly get on the end of out of nowhere. The other benefit of an out-swinger is that the overhits can keep the ball in play, and will often fall to the attacking team as the defending team will have their fullback in the box defender the incoming cross, and our left sided full back or midfielder can pick it up. An overhit in-swinger is a goal kick. What Murphy brings - and I've mentioned this before in match threads - is that he plays with pace and instinct. I don't mean he runs fast, but that he moves the ball very, very quickly. It seems almost anti-Howe ball. The comparison with Trippier & Almiron is that when we broke, the ball would hit Almiron, who would turn it back to Trippier. The whole opposition defence would get themselves sorted, we'd get ourselves sorted, and we'd camp outside their low block without actually an idea of what our next step would be. When Murphy started playing in front of Trippier, Trippier took a few games to adjust because Murphy wasn't waiting for an overlap or to cut back - he was spotting the runs, the space and putting that super dangerous early ball in from out wide. It's not Murphy adjusting to playing regularly, it's the team getting used to the speed of thought and action that Murphy brings, we have a much, much more direct threat now in Murphy that we didn't have before and it's a breath of fresh air to see that incisiveness. It's picking the right tools for the job, but having wingers who can whip outswingers in to dangerous positions is something that a lot of modern defences are going to struggle with. Most of us can remember flying wingers bombing down to the byline like Gillespie, or Neville overlapping and pinging in some peaches, but the lads playing today haven't seen that in their adulthoods and are going to have to learn how to deal with it. They've been coached to defend against the inverted wingers of the past 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Almirons best ever patch was when he had Trippier. Murphy at the moment is unplayable, do we think in any way it's due to having a rejuvenated Trippier on that side also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I’m enjoying all of these posts right now because as soon as the Juice has one bad game, this place is going to turn on him like crazy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 16 hours ago, kocunar said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. Front 3, innit 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Murphy a forward? Hmm. And they put Salah as at midfielder at the same time.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: as soon as the Juice has one bad game, this place is going to turn on him like crazy Barnes too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Kanj said: Goes to show you what coaching paired with a player’s willingness to put in the work and be coached can do. The atmosphere Howe and his team have built and the hierarchy above him has supported is nothing short of incredible. Feel like we haven’t seen much like this in football across the top leagues. Exactly this. Eddie and his staff have seen something in Murph that others haven't. It's given him the confidence to shine. That and the bonus he's playing with a world class striker who he knows will get on the end of his passes/crosses. His face says it all. He's absolutely loving his life and we're the beneficiaries of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Chicken Dancer said: It does make me wonder that when we do upgrade at RW that we'd prefer to keep a right-footed player there. It isn't the norm these days but we/he have shown it can be hugely effective. Actually love how him, Schar and Joelinton - all signings from the previous years - are mainstays in a class NUFC team. Shows the importance of coaching, confidence and belief. The other side of that is, if we have in inverted winger like most teams do, then Tino would come into play a lot more next season as an overlapping full back. Murphy would be the out and out right wing option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Tino is a rare breed - his crossing with his left (weaker?) foot is surprisingly really good, that dinked ball to the far post has yielded a good return and he's consistent with it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Watching his performance again from yesterday, it was genuinely elite-level stuff. I cannot believe how much better he's gotten, and how much more consistently he is putting in quality balls. It's impossible. It's like if Matt Targett all of a sudden looked like Nuno Mendes, what on Earth is happening? He is such a great character and has been selflessly supportive of others for years, loves the club, loves the people, you can't not love him - and now he's a superstar all of a sudden. What a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 What’s this juice patter all about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Fak said: What’s this juice patter all about? 5 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: Seen the quote but not seen it posted he's in my top 5 favourite ever players easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Fak said: What’s this juice patter all about? Jacob Murphy is under investigation for killing his wife? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, 54 said: I saw that interview but assumed it was in relation to something said previous to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Jacob Murphy is under investigation for killing his wife? Should be rewarded if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Fak said: I saw that interview but assumed it was in relation to something said previous to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Troll said: Name dropping Ritchie again for helping him. Absolute disgrace we gave him an extension etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weznufc Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 22 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Name dropping Ritchie again for helping him. Absolute disgrace we gave him an extension etc. Richie is gonna be in sky for the match with villa on Saturday aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 One juicy Murphy Theres only one juicy Murphy 🤩 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Isn’t this what football is all about? His career story with us in stuff of dreams too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 To "Juicy" - Notorious B.I.G “Juicy… Murphy! On the wing, he’s flying free! Cross or shot, he’s got the key, Toon lad living the dream, you loveee to see!” Could defo improve, but would be nice to see be a bit of originality in our songbook finally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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