Varadi Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I think ultimately Murphy has better potential but don't think he's currently way better than Ritchie - he has different qualities but brings a lot to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I think he's more worthy of a place in the line-up as well but I trust Rafa and he's obviously just easing him in. It wasn't all that long ago that he was being described as an utterly shit signing. Now he's so good that he should be looking to leave because he's on the bench. It's absolutely crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Tbf it actually make a bit of sense that Ritchie plays especially away from home, hes a more defensive winger, where we have an attacking full-back, whereas on the other side we have a defensive full back and an attacking winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 62nd minute sub Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Okay. So I might have got abit worked up. Just annoys me to see someone clearly playing well and causing danger dropped for someone who never goes at his man. Apologies. Ritchie will retire and you will get your wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Ah yes, the laughing and calling it s**** with no reasoning to disprove it. The NO way. Okay, here's some reasoning. Maybe Rafa understands the concept of an impact sub and feels that that will have a more positive impact than starting him. Maybe Rafa isn't happy with certain elements of his game yet to be happy starting him when he's going to have to help out against Zaha, what with him being young and it being his first season. The suggestion that he's on the way out and that he'll never get in ahead of Ritchie is risible tbh, ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Left on the bench whilst Atsu produces another shitshow and the Anonymous Bros Matty and Dwighty trundle around producing bugger all for 90 mins. Poor lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Left on the bench whilst Atsu produces another shitshow and the Anonymous Bros Matty and Dwighty trundle around producing bugger all for 90 mins. Poor lad. Agree. Benitez needs to show more faith in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Left on the bench whilst Atsu produces another shitshow and the Anonymous Bros Matty and Dwighty trundle around producing bugger all for 90 mins. Poor lad. Baffling that Atsu is producing poor performances whereas Murphy was really coming into some form yet it's Atsu getting most of the game time. Murphy is clearly a confidence player and I'm not sure what leaving him out after he's been playing well is going to achieve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Still cringing at how angry I got at him being left out yesterday man, what a mess Still will keep championing his cause though, nothing better than watching a player who likes to run at people do just that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hopefully he will tear it up in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Go back to long posts, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Still cringing at how angry I got at him being left out yesterday man, what a mess Still will keep championing his cause though, nothing better than watching a player who likes to run at people do just that. Fair play man. I've been disappointed with his lack of time in the last few matches too, but we have a squad for a reason. Maybe Murphy's got a knock, or maybe Rafa simply thinks the others suit the teams we've played better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Go back to long posts, please. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Go back to long posts, please. No. Get in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Atsu was on the bench a lot during last season, but is getting plenty of games now. It'll just be Rafa's way of easing him in. Taking a bit too long, and it's frustrating when up until Kenedy arrived, none of our wingers really contributed much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hopefully he will tear it up in the Championship. ts; dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Atsu either has a blinder or is fucking terrible on a single given day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It makes you stop and think about coaching and whether it actually makes a difference. Very few of our players seem to be improving and some have even gone back. Atsu is 26 and should be in his so-called peak years and yet doesn't seem to get any better. He may have the odd good game but his overall play contributes to why we are in trouble. No consistency at all. Perez is no better than when he came here. Hayden is hardly making strides. Yedlin still seems to struggle with the concept of defending. Haidara? List goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Disagree, I think Atsu has got better here. He's a more capable and well-rounded player this season for us than he was last season. I think you may be basing much of your opinion on his current form - which is unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I really mean improvement in individuals as opposed to setting a team tactically to do a job. Lascelles is a player that has clearly improved. Is that down to coaching? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Disagree, I think Atsu has got better here. He's a more capable and well-rounded player this season for us than he was last season. I think you may be basing much of your opinion on his current form - which is unfair. Marginally, but that's all. Unfair to form an opinion that includes how he's playing at these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Atsu either has a blinder or is f***ing terrible on a single given day Again, especially with wingers or wide men, they need to be in the starting 11 week in week out to show any kind of consistency and even then due to their position such players unless the very elite will frustrate and be inconsistent to a degree. Same applies to Murphy. If he starts at the weekend and has a mare...? Who would or what would be at fault? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Why are wingers singled out in particular? You can say any player in any position needs to be playing consistently. My point is that with world class coaching they aren’t getting much better if at all even on the basics. Atsu and Perez......FFS look up and play the simple quick pass at times rather than running up you’re arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Why are wingers singled out in particular? You can say any player in any position needs to be playing consistently. My point is that with world class coaching they aren’t getting much better if at all even on the basics. Atsu and Perez......FFS look up and play the simple quick pass at times rather than running up you’re arse. They play in a position where in the modern game they are meant to defend and attack, but because of their position they rarely get to see enough of the ball to do anything with it or that the modern game demands they spend more time getting back. Especially here. Atsu is an average winger, but he’s a good player for us at the moment or can be, same with Murphy, but either stick with the, or look for something else because expecting them to do what we would all like to see them do just isn’t going to happen when they are in out of the side, same with strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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