Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: The way in which they collapsed affer their attackers have them a 2-0 agg lead vs Real can't be pinned on the attackers. Exactly, flair players always take the blame when a team underperforms, it’s standard. PSG are a mess for a lot of reasons, sacking Tuchel when he got them to a CL final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Ace said: Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rafalove said: I don’t think so. Unless the owner sells up. I’m sure you’re aware Brighton have a top secret analytics database which is how they’re able to keep signing class players at such a cheap price. Think Brentford are run in a similar fashion. Will be interesting to see how far they can go. Yeah but it feels like things like this always catches up with clubs eventually and make it more of a level playing field. Like when Wenger first started at Arsenal with his healthy fitness regimes and then everyone caught up eventually I guess with the PL riches they'll always be able to attract players from South America, the low countries etc. But might be harder for them now that agents know how good their scouting is they can get more clubs to start a bidding war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ace said: Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Messi has played 14 games for PSG in the CL and got 9 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 May as well rescind all Haaland's goals outside the top 6, his bundesliga goals, lewandowski's at bayern, if thats the criteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Keegan had Owen playing well imo, and would have kept us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: He’s literally got 15 goals and 15 assists for them. How is that not “putting in effort “ for the team? Michael Owen isn’t even on the same planet as Messi. It’s obvious to anyone with a brain they’ve suspended him out of pettiness as he wants to leave He’s playing in a stacked team against in most cases majorly over matched opponents. Those stats aren’t as great as you think they are. We aren’t talking about who was a better player. PSG are far further ahead as a club than we were in 2005 as well, why don’t you point that out as well The parallels are obvious to ‘anyone with a brain’ big reputation player, still pretty good if not at their best and doesn’t seem to want to be there. Add to that a clear priority for International football over the club paying his wages ?♂️ Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Ace said: Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Any need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Ace said: He’s playing in a stacked team against in most cases majorly over matched opponents. Those stats aren’t as great as you think they are. We aren’t talking about who was a better player. PSG are far further ahead as a club than we were in 2005 as well, why don’t you point that out as well The parallels are obvious to ‘anyone with a brain’ big reputation player, still pretty good if not at their best and doesn’t seem to want to be there. Add to that a clear priority for International football over the club paying his wages ?♂️ Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Mature. Every single great player, plays on the best teams, really shocking stuff. Most of those teams are far more stacked than the others, also very shocking. So are we taking away people’s stats for that now? Benzema? Ronaldo? The comparison is ridiculous, and made even more ridiculous by the fact Owen had fuck all to with us going down, we all hate him, and that’s fine, but it was not solely on his shoulders. Nolan being more interested in drinking than actually being arsed to put effort on the pitch certainly didn’t help. If he hadn’t scored you’d be saying “fraud he’s finished/he can’t be Arsed” it’s ridiculous logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Manxst said: Messi has played 14 games for PSG in the CL and got 9 goals. PSG played 8 games vs opponents on a similar level (City, Real, Juventus and Bayern) and he got one goal. Knocked out both times in the round of 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: Any need? I presume He’s like 15. Hopefully anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ace said: PSG played 8 games vs opponents on a similar level (City, Real, Juventus and Bayern) and he got one goal. Knocked out both times in the round of 16 And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: May as well rescind all Haaland's goals outside the top 6, his bundesliga goals, lewandowski's at bayern, if thats the criteria. It’s not about rescinding goals. You and the other Messi fan boy are putting stats without context to defend your position that Messi has consistently put effort in at PSG and hasn’t fucked them about like Owen did to us. For the record on Haaland vs the rest of the sky 6 and us/Brighton he’s 9 in 12 that I can find (don’t know if he even played in all the games) As for Lewandowski in his last 3 years at Bayern from what I can find he played in 10 games vs super league sides/PSG and scored 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Manxst said: Any need? My apologies there was no need, should have called you a fan boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. You forgot Sunderland as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. We aren’t comparing if Owen is better than Messi ffs. It’s comparing the parallels between them and their moves here and to PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: I presume He’s like 15. Hopefully anyway Bit noncey Stay away from 15 year olds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: You forgot Sunderland as well. Because scoring in a derby game is the same as those ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Ace said: Bit noncey Stay away from 15 year olds Man shut the fuck up. Done responding to your complete idiocy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Man shut the fuck up. Done responding to your complete idiocy ??? Dont say you hope people are 15 ?♂️ Complete Idiocy? I’d replied to each of your posts until the last one where you were trying to be a smart ass and countered the points based on information available plus parallels to a situation involving the toon. Sorry you don’t feel you can debate anymore and have a good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Ace said: ??? Dont say you hope people are 15 ?♂️ Complete Idiocy? I’d replied to each of your posts until the last one where you were trying to be a smart ass and countered the points based on information available plus parallels to a situation involving the toon. Sorry you don’t feel you can debate anymore and have a good day. Yeah because it would be embarrassing for a fully grown adult to call people “dick suckers”. I hoped you would be younger given the way you talk; as the alternative is sad. Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: He's a player brought in more for media and commercial appeal than to fit the squad. He's only there for the money. He has shown contept for the club. He's one of many luxury player superstars who does nothing off the ball. He's everything wrong with the PSG mindset. And yes it comes from the clubs leadership. No manager serious about performing would want this version of Messi, Neymar & Mbappe in the same XI. That's an interesting way of framing it considering he literally had to leave Barca because he wasn't allowed to take a pay cut or play for free He's still a filthy tax dodger like, but that's another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That's an interesting way of framing it considering he literally had to leave Barca because he wasn't allowed to take a pay cut or play for free He's still a filthy tax dodger like, but that's another matter. He would stay at Barca for less. Would he be at PSG for the same money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That's an interesting way of framing it considering he literally had to leave Barca because he wasn't allowed to take a pay cut or play for free He's still a filthy tax dodger like, but that's another matter. Wasn't this filthy tax dodger your avatar since the world cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: He would stay at Barca for less. Would he be at PSG for the same money? He couldn't stay at Barca, there's a Spanish law that prohibits paying people less than 50% than previous contract unless they've agreed to it in their previous contract. That's why he couldn't even had stayed if we offered to pay for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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