LFEE Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder where that leaves Caicedo ? I know Brighton are excellent at replacing players, but to sell 2 of their best players in one window would be risky. Presumably at Brighton for another year with them being in Europe also it’s looking. Like you say it be very risky selling both. Would imagine the sharks are circling around their young forward and winger too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 International football is diferent. Argentina had 1 luxury player. PSG have 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I remember Michael Owen dickriders talking about 30 goals in 80 appearances. The fact people are even bringing up Michael Owen in this discussion should be bannable. It’s absurd. I absolutely hate the guy, but even so it was not his fault we were a bad team. Nolan was disgraceful, Barton too, and Duff. He turned it round but Colo was absolutely awful that season as well. We were a terrible side. We would have went down with or without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Calling him lazy, is that lazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, joeyt said: Brighton's scouting is obviously brilliant but I wonder if there'll come a time where they do a Leicester or Southampton and their well of talent will dry up Really interesting well run club mind I don’t think so. Unless the owner sells up. I’m sure you’re aware Brighton have a top secret analytics database which is how they’re able to keep signing class players at such a cheap price. Think Brentford are run in a similar fashion. Will be interesting to see how far they can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: International football is diferent. Argentina had 1 luxury player. PSG have 3. It’s ostensibly the same game. PSG’s issues are not in their attacking play. They’ll win the league again, as always. The fans can complain get another manager sacked and restart the process all over again. They went out in the QFs under Carlo, with Ibra probably playing his best football. It’s easy to pin it on Neymar/Mbappe/Messi/Veratti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: It’s ostensibly the same game. PSG’s issues are not in their attacking play. They’ll win the league again, as always. The fans can complain get another manager sacked and restart the process all over again. They went out in the QFs under Carlo, with Ibra probably playing his best football. It’s easy to pin it on Neymar/Mbappe/Messi/Veratti. The way in which they collapsed affer their attackers have them a 2-0 agg lead vs Real can't be pinned on the attackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Manxst said: Messi has 31 goals and 34 assists in 71 games for them, and they won the league last year. If that’s not effort, then fuck knows. Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: The way in which they collapsed affer their attackers have them a 2-0 agg lead vs Real can't be pinned on the attackers. Exactly, flair players always take the blame when a team underperforms, it’s standard. PSG are a mess for a lot of reasons, sacking Tuchel when he got them to a CL final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Ace said: Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rafalove said: I don’t think so. Unless the owner sells up. I’m sure you’re aware Brighton have a top secret analytics database which is how they’re able to keep signing class players at such a cheap price. Think Brentford are run in a similar fashion. Will be interesting to see how far they can go. Yeah but it feels like things like this always catches up with clubs eventually and make it more of a level playing field. Like when Wenger first started at Arsenal with his healthy fitness regimes and then everyone caught up eventually I guess with the PL riches they'll always be able to attract players from South America, the low countries etc. But might be harder for them now that agents know how good their scouting is they can get more clubs to start a bidding war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ace said: Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Messi has played 14 games for PSG in the CL and got 9 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 May as well rescind all Haaland's goals outside the top 6, his bundesliga goals, lewandowski's at bayern, if thats the criteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Keegan had Owen playing well imo, and would have kept us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: He’s literally got 15 goals and 15 assists for them. How is that not “putting in effort “ for the team? Michael Owen isn’t even on the same planet as Messi. It’s obvious to anyone with a brain they’ve suspended him out of pettiness as he wants to leave He’s playing in a stacked team against in most cases majorly over matched opponents. Those stats aren’t as great as you think they are. We aren’t talking about who was a better player. PSG are far further ahead as a club than we were in 2005 as well, why don’t you point that out as well The parallels are obvious to ‘anyone with a brain’ big reputation player, still pretty good if not at their best and doesn’t seem to want to be there. Add to that a clear priority for International football over the club paying his wages 🤦♂️ Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Ace said: Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Any need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Ace said: He’s playing in a stacked team against in most cases majorly over matched opponents. Those stats aren’t as great as you think they are. We aren’t talking about who was a better player. PSG are far further ahead as a club than we were in 2005 as well, why don’t you point that out as well The parallels are obvious to ‘anyone with a brain’ big reputation player, still pretty good if not at their best and doesn’t seem to want to be there. Add to that a clear priority for International football over the club paying his wages 🤦♂️ Hes fucked off multiple times while he’s been there and gone AWOL now and you are blaming the club.You Messi dick suckers are something else. Mature. Every single great player, plays on the best teams, really shocking stuff. Most of those teams are far more stacked than the others, also very shocking. So are we taking away people’s stats for that now? Benzema? Ronaldo? The comparison is ridiculous, and made even more ridiculous by the fact Owen had fuck all to with us going down, we all hate him, and that’s fine, but it was not solely on his shoulders. Nolan being more interested in drinking than actually being arsed to put effort on the pitch certainly didn’t help. If he hadn’t scored you’d be saying “fraud he’s finished/he can’t be Arsed” it’s ridiculous logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Manxst said: Messi has played 14 games for PSG in the CL and got 9 goals. PSG played 8 games vs opponents on a similar level (City, Real, Juventus and Bayern) and he got one goal. Knocked out both times in the round of 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: Any need? I presume He’s like 15. Hopefully anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ace said: PSG played 8 games vs opponents on a similar level (City, Real, Juventus and Bayern) and he got one goal. Knocked out both times in the round of 16 And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: May as well rescind all Haaland's goals outside the top 6, his bundesliga goals, lewandowski's at bayern, if thats the criteria. It’s not about rescinding goals. You and the other Messi fan boy are putting stats without context to defend your position that Messi has consistently put effort in at PSG and hasn’t fucked them about like Owen did to us. For the record on Haaland vs the rest of the sky 6 and us/Brighton he’s 9 in 12 that I can find (don’t know if he even played in all the games) As for Lewandowski in his last 3 years at Bayern from what I can find he played in 10 games vs super league sides/PSG and scored 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Manxst said: Any need? My apologies there was no need, should have called you a fan boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. You forgot Sunderland as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: And Michael Owen scored goals for us against the likes of Portsmouth, Reading, Birmingham City, Wigan, Bolton…. We aren’t comparing if Owen is better than Messi ffs. It’s comparing the parallels between them and their moves here and to PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: I presume He’s like 15. Hopefully anyway Bit noncey Stay away from 15 year olds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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