Vinny Green Balls Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Open for business means the club shop won't.close on New Year's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 100%. No question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Also behind Rafa 100%. We have a genuine football manager, and a great one at that, at the club for the first time in what seems like forever. I hate all this stuff about questioning him, we are working with a squad that's barely adequate for the championship and yet he managed to get us up with them. He will have had a list of players, we all accept that, and it will have had a list of other choices if those could not be gotten. Thing is, he's been given very little to work with. Never mind <falsetto voice> "but they're his players", how far down the list are the players he got? How many were meant as long term prospects and not expected to have the weight of an entire campaign thrust upon them? Imagine if The Duke of Wellington was sent to conquer Napoleon's armies, all of whom had cannon and horse whilst he had been provided with a gang of small kids waving blunt sticks. Just because you have a great general, it doesnt mean he can work miracles if you don't provide him with a decent calibre of troops. This is why I can't be doing with the short sighted criticims I read. Like it would make the world of difference which barely adequate keeper we play. There is only so much anyone could do by switching poor player for poor player. I love this forum and really enjoy the discourse on here by some really intelligent and helpful posters, but I would like those who criticise Rafa based only on what is in front of them now to really remember who we had as "managers" before. It makes me shudder with disgust when I think of those inept smeg harvesters who sucked up to ashley and left fans feeling underwhelmed with their dire management, yet it was Rafa who made me beleive in this club again. Think back to those times, then think forward to what we could be again and I think that our best chance of that better future is having Rafa at our helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Also behind Rafa 100%. We have a genuine football manager, and a great one at that, at the club for the first time in what seems like forever. I hate all this stuff about questioning him, we are working with a squad that's barely adequate for the championship and yet he managed to get us up with them. He will have had a list of players, we all accept that, and it will have had a list of other choices if those could not be gotten. Thing is, he's been given very little to work with. Never mind <falsetto voice> "but they're his players", how far down the list are the players he got? How many were meant as long term prospects and not expected to have the weight of an entire campaign thrust upon them? Imagine if The Duke of Wellington was sent to conquer Napoleon's armies, all of whom had cannon and horse whilst he had been provided with a gang of small kids waving blunt sticks. Just because you have a great general, it doesnt mean he can work miracles if you don't provide him with a decent calibre of troops. This is why I can't be doing with the short sighted criticims I read. Like it would make the world of difference which barely adequate keeper we play. There is only so much anyone could do by switching poor player for poor player. I love this forum and really enjoy the discourse on here by some really intelligent and helpful posters, but I would like those who criticise Rafa based only on what is in front of them now to really remember who we had as "managers" before. It makes me shudder with disgust when I think of those inept smeg harvesters who sucked up to ashley and left fans feeling underwhelmed with their dire management, yet it was Rafa who made me beleive in this club again. Think back to those times, then think forward to what we could be again and I think that our best chance of that better future is having Rafa at our helm. Amen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm of the view that rafas tactics just don't work with the players at his disposal but he seems to think he can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. He needs to play to players strengths rather than stickinog round pegs in to square holes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm of the view that rafas tactics just don't work with the players at his disposal but he seems to think he can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. He needs to play to players strengths rather than stickinog round pegs in to square holes. Agreed. He needs to cut some of the free and at home we need to be more energetic, more ambitious and more risk taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm of the feeling he's probably making more mistakes himself with subs etc because of how poor the squad is etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 LLLLLD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm of the feeling he's probably making more mistakes himself with subs etc because of how poor the squad is etc. He’s been brave selection wise and is clearly working hard to find a solution, but sometimes it’s easier just to pick a team and give them a bit of freedom. He’s trying to micro manage every player, every situation, every eventuality and it’s not working. Something has to give. Again I’d like to see a midfield 5 of Murphy, Merino, Hayden, Shelvey, Atsu and with Gayle up front. Enough defensive shape and enough attacking options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm of the feeling he's probably making more mistakes himself with subs etc because of how poor the squad is etc. He’s been brave selection wise and is clearly working hard to find a solution, but sometimes it’s easier just to pick a team and give them a bit of freedom. He’s trying to micro manage every player, every situation, every eventuality and it’s not working. Something has to give. Again I’d like to see a midfield 5 of Murphy, Merino, Hayden, Shelvey, Atsu and with Gayle up front. Enough defensive shape and enough attacking options. He's scared to imo, because defensively our players have constantly been making individual mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100% Don't always understand his selections but he knows better than me. And Joselu is an easy scapegoat for some it would seem even when he's winning everything in the air, linking play well and not missing chances (he can't when the midfield don't create any for him to miss) while grafting his bollocks off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 LLLLLD Or last 3 W,L,D games. No one expected anything from City. 3 points from Stoke and last four games look okay imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100%. The summer killed our season before we'd already got going. The squad is full of absolute shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him, but losing faith. I appreciate he has shite to work with, but a manager of his quality should still be able to get performances out of the team we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFC_Leazes/status/947182722698575873 Whatever that said has gone now but MA's chopper has flown from the Liverpool area to Newcastle and back today, as it did before and after the Man City game. I presume ferrying Rafa about so he can spend time with family over the festive period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 MA is out of the country no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He and the possible takeover are the only two reasons to continue supporting this horror movie of a club. Doesn't mean I agree with his decisions 100%, but there is no other manager I'd rather have at this moment, and given our dire position. The mere thought of managers like Tony Pulis lurking in the shadows makes me physically ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Well, we already have the Spanish Tony Pulis apparently so that would be a sideways move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Love Rafa me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 All that silverware Pulis has won. I can see the similarities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Don't you have forum oppression and genocide to commit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Don't you have forum oppression and genocide to commit? Touché. Now shut the fuck up, scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100%. The summer killed our season before we'd already got going. The squad is full of absolute shit. Need to remember too that not only was the summer transfer window a disaster, the window before that we bought nobody whatsoever, and the window before that we sold players we could get decent fees for and bought a load of players primarily to get us out of the Championship. The squad is a pathetic reflection of a wilfully negligent transfer policy that goes back years and years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 LLLLLD ---------- uu FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We've only got 1 player in around the match day 18 that came through the academy (woodman would be 2 but he hasn't started a game for us yet). Which means extra resources need to be put into building a squad. The chronic lack of academy players under ashley even becoming squad fillers is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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