Chicken Dancer Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The only thing you can say against Rafa imo is that he knew (or should have had an idea) what Ashley was all about before he decided to come here. Probably, but more than likely he was sold a lie, considering the shithouse before him got £80m+ to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The only thing you can say against Rafa imo is that he knew (or should have had an idea) what Ashley was all about before he decided to come here. Probably, but more than likely he was sold a lie, considering the shithouse before him got £80m+ to spend. He was defo sold a lie. No way Rafa came here to spend fuck all and scrap around the bottom of the table like a loser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The only thing you can say against Rafa imo is that he knew (or should have had an idea) what Ashley was all about before he decided to come here. Probably, but more than likely he was sold a lie, considering the shithouse before him got £80m+ to spend. He was defo sold a lie. No way Rafa came here to spend fuck all and scrap around the bottom of the table like a loser. Absolutely this never in a million years was he told pre accepting the job that hed be signing shite like joselu,Manquillo, and Atsu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Well that's exactly what i mean about knowing what Ashley is like, a serial fucking liar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I wonder who is responsible for signings? There is no way any reasonable manager (of which Rafa is one) would ever say yes to shit like Manquillo and Joselu. Anyone who's ever kicked a football before can see that they are not fit for professional standard football in England, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The press stories that summer were that he "demanded" Murphy and then later Joselu, were brought in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The press stories that summer were that he "demanded" Murphy and then later Joselu, were brought in. Aye, he probably did, as they were the last options on his list and didn't want to go without! Like picking up that fat bird at 5am so you're not going home alone, hardly ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Manquillo and Joselu ones only rankle a little bit because we already had better available. Especially watching Mbabu now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The press stories that summer were that he "demanded" Murphy and then later Joselu, were brought in. Aye, he probably did, as they were the last options on his list and didn't want to go without! Like picking up that fat bird at 5am so you're not going home alone, hardly ideal. The difference being that fat bird would more than likely be a dirty bitch and fantastic fuck. Joselu and Manquillo are not fit for purpose at all....unlike a fuck with a fat bird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Eh !!! Joselu did a header against Liverpool the other day what more do you's want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Rafa has form for buying some shite mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Which manager doesn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Rafa has form for buying some shite mind. Yeah, he’s a football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Rafa has form for buying some shite mind. 17.5m for Glenn Johnson has to be the worst though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Its hard to buy quality from Pound-stretcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Rafa has form for buying some shite mind. 17.5m for Glenn Johnson has to be the worst though What a strange example to bring up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So why buy Joselu? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So why buy Joselu? Because he has no money, incompetent people above him and a football club can’t get by with 13 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So why buy Joselu? Because he has no money, incompetent people above him and a football club can’t get by with 13 players. That doesn’t answer the question, he was shite and we and all Stoke fans knew it, so why buy him irrespective of not getting his target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I seem to remember when we signed Manquillo he commented that it was a case of 'this is the best I can get for this money' Rafa has form for buying some shite mind. 17.5m for Glenn Johnson has to be the worst though What a strange example to bring up Glen Johnson is a better right back than anything we've had in the last 10 years. Pretty sure Sir Bobby tried to sign him for us but lost out to Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So why buy Joselu? Because he has no money, incompetent people above him and a football club can’t get by with 13 players. That doesn’t answer the question, he was shite and we and all Stoke fans knew it, so why buy him irrespective of not getting his target. That's not exactly right. Their forum was split pretty evenly with quite a lot saying he should have been given a chance under Hughes. Not that it matters really because as it turns out he isn't good enough for the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Glen Johnson at the time was a fortune but was pretty crap for Liverpool under Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So why buy Joselu? Because he has no money, incompetent people above him and a football club can’t get by with 13 players. That doesn’t answer the question, he was shite and we and all Stoke fans knew it, so why buy him irrespective of not getting his target. Well if the question is about one specific signing then it’s not a very interesting one to answer. The bigger picture is he was shopping in bargain corner and with very limited time. Who knows what the options even were? Having to defend Rafa to NUFC fans is absolutely crazy by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Glen Johnson at the time was a fortune but was pretty crap for Liverpool under Rafa. That was my point in 2009 17.5m for him was outrageous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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