HaydnNUFC Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 No idea if the season in China is playing atm but Dalian were teetering near the relegation places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Man ... we were so close to building the club up to something worthwhile again. So close. We really weren't. The sort of infrastructure Rafa was talking about building requires investment, and Ashley was never interested in infrastructure as there's no obvious quick gains to be made. Rafa knew by the end that he was never going to be on the same wavelength as the owner and that was never going to change. In hindsight even fighting to sign Rondon was a ridiculous state of affairs for a manager of his pedigree. He wouldn't even be looking at those players if he was at Liverpool or Tottenham. By the time Rafa left he was just asking to be allowed to spend any transfer money as he wished ... that was it and he was happy to stay on. Now, when you consider that s since he left Bruce has spent £100 million then it all starts to look incredibly ridiculous. Rafa could have used some of that on transfers and some to start small improvements on the infrastructure no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 No idea if the season in China is playing atm but Dalian were teetering near the relegation places. Season finished a while back. 2021 doesn’t seem to have been announced when it’s going to start yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Rafa Benitez: "Bruno Fernandes was a player we were following at Newcastle. At Sporting Lisbon he had an issue with his club. We were progressing but the problem was the matter would go to court and that would complicate it. The club didn’t want to do that Apparently in the times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Where’s that from? Any explaination as to why the club didn’t want go through the courts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I don't believe it, total horseshit, never in a million years, Rafa was never our manager was he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The times according to gallowgate on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Here was a link from the time (taken from O Bola in Portugal). https://sportslens.com/report-newcastle-united-join-west-ham-in-the-race-to-sign-bruno-fernandes/238070/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Interesting. Wonder if these quotes are being made with a view to coming back once the takeover has gone through. Wonder how we’d be looking now if we get Bruno and kept Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 He’d probably be at Porto on loan or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Can someone post this please?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I love how On Rafa’s website, the titles he has won as a manger are in a graphic on the top of a page and at the very end, there is the championship league title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Rafa Benítez was managing Liverpool and Dimitar Berbatov was at eventual champions Manchester United the last time the clubs were in a title tussle. They recall that 2008-09 season, when United lost both games, and assess this year’s battle Rafa Benítez, Dimitar Berbatov Saturday January 16 2021, 12.01am, The Times How big is this game? Benítez It will be important, for sure, but not crucial to what happens in the rest of the season. There will be plenty of time to rectify what happens in this game. The confidence you get from winning is the main thing. You can win in a “bad” way and what I mean by that is you get lucky. Apart from three points, it is maybe not that useful. If you win in a “good” way and are much better than the other team, then that shows you are strong. It feels more important. Berbatov United are in a good position now. That was a very important win over Burnley [the 1-0 victory at Turf Moor on Tuesday night] — the kind of win that you need to become champions. Sir Alex [Ferguson] was always happy when we used to win the games 1-0, not 5-0. It’s the same result, three points. With a 1-0 win it shows that you have been concentrating the whole game. Trust me, these matches are the hardest. Now they are going to face Liverpool, a completely different game and, if they win it, it will be better for all of us who support the team. Both teams have pressure. Manchester United to stay top and continue their run and Liverpool to respond to losing top spot. Benítez People are saying United changed this or that, but they were doing similar things. They needed a couple of good results to get confidence because they have top-class players. Watching some games, I could see a good team with good players and they were missing maybe a little bit of pace, the tempo of the games was maybe a little bit slow sometimes. But in terms of players, and level of the players, it was a question of time for me. Liverpool have the intensity. They have the tempo normally. They can see Manchester United on top now and so that means they have to get back to being more consistent. If they have made mistakes recently, then they have still had consistency during the season. But this is a very strange season. The way that you train and behave in the week is not the same. If you get the virus, you can recover but a lot of people still have problems. It is quite complicated to judge someone and be categorical in expressing your opinion. Berbatov The pressure will be there for United. It doesn’t matter that there are no fans. You put it on yourself, because we are human beings. You think: “What if I make a bad pass? What if we lose this game?” Maybe Liverpool will have a bad day; look at the injuries they have, and you need to take advantage of that. You need to be clever, cunning and be smart, because United are fighting for a Premier League title. Just imagine how they will feel if they end up moving six points clear after the game. That would be an unbelievable feeling for the United players. They will go into the game with respect for Liverpool but they must have no fear. United have lost semi-finals under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Liverpool have lost finals under Jürgen Klopp. Is this a process you have to go through before winning? Benítez As a team you can have potential and quality, but you can still be missing something. You need players who are competitive and whose mentality is to be winners. It is not just about getting them into the team, but being in the squad and the dressing room and pushing everyone. When I went to Napoli, [Edinson] Cavani was sold to Paris Saint-Germain and everyone was telling me about his mentality and how competitive he was. He was a winner. I am sure he will have some influence in the dressing room. Bruno Fernandes was a player we were following at Newcastle United. He was at Sporting Lisbon and he had an issue with his club. There was a chance he could leave on a free. We were progressing but the problem was that the matter would go to court and that would complicate it. The club didn’t want that. He has been crucial for United. He changed everything with the way he is playing — assists and goals. He has “personality”. He tries to look for the right passes. In recent games, I saw him going to press with determination and intensity. Berbatov It’s four semi-finals in a row that United have lost and at the same time they are doing so well in the Premier League. You start thinking: “What is the problem here? How can it be like this?” I lost my fair share of semi-finals too. But when it’s four in a row, you start thinking: “There is a habit here, probably.” Maybe United just didn’t take their opportunities, but if they win the Premier League, everyone is going to forget about that. Who do you think are favourites tomorrow? Benítez These games are very complicated. I have the feeling that Liverpool can do well, but I have to be honest, and Manchester United have been doing well in recent games. It will be 50-50, or 60-40 with my heart. If you have problems in defence you have to try to protect that area by staying more compact but, at the same time, your style is to press and push the other team. You have to take risks. The problem with Manchester United is they have some pace up front and you have to be sure not to let them run easily behind your defenders. Berbatov We all know the kind of players that Liverpool have, and they would like to cut the difference in points and go back on top. It doesn’t make a difference that the game is being played at Anfield, but the difference is the players. Liverpool have great players and a great manager but they will give United the respect they deserve because, at the moment, United are in first place. I would expect United to win, with my history with the team, but it’s going to be a tough game. Which other teams do you think will contest the title race? Benítez For me it will be Manchester City if they continue improving. Leicester City are doing really well, Chelsea have spent a lot of money and have a good team. But in terms of experience and consistency, Manchester City have to be there. Berbatov I have always been drawn to the underdog, that is why I thought it was unbelievable when Leicester won the title. This year we have Manchester United, Liverpool, City in the running. I was happy to see Tottenham Hotspur at the top of the table. Hopefully they will get back on track and surprise a few people. A United fan holds up a “Rafa’s cracking up” banner, but Liverpool won the match 4-1 A United fan holds up a “Rafa’s cracking up” banner, but Liverpool won the match 4-1 NEWS GROUP NEWSPAPERS LTD The 2008-09 season was the last time Liverpool and United really went head to head in a title race? What do you remember about that run-in? Benítez Everyone talks about the press conference I gave before the Stoke game, but people forget United had two games in hand. We had 45 points from 20 games, Chelsea had 42 from 20, and Man United had 38 from 18. I was trying to express something that was happening in English football. No one can argue about the facts I gave. I read this week that Mark Clattenburg [the referee] said he gave three penalties to Liverpool in one game at Old Trafford but that David Moyes was the United manager. He said it would not have happened if Sir Alex had been in charge. I wanted to try to ensure we had a level playing field until the end of the season. They did better than us and you can say: “OK, well done.” They had a good team, Fergie time, [Federico] Macheda’s goals and history is written for the winners. But we finished with ten wins and a draw in 11 games, so how is it that United got under our skin? I remember we were going to Old Trafford and there was a boy with his father. He had a “Rafa is cracking up” sign and then we beat them 4-1. They can say what they want, and they won the league, but it is not true. Berbatov I wasn’t usually big on watching press conferences or that kind of thing, but I remember this one happening. Sir Alex was a master of mind games. He knew how to get under the skin of managers and players, and take advantage of it, make you make a mistake and in the end, most of the time he gets on top of you and he takes what he wants and in that case it was the Premier League. That year, every time we got to the dressing-room door, Sir Alex would be standing there and he would say one word to every one of us before we went through the door and out on to the pitch. He would say: “Concentration, concentration, concentration,” and this is very important because every game is decided by mistakes that you commit on the pitch, and if your concentration level is high you will not make more mistakes. ● Interviews by Paul Joyce and Paul Hirst. For more from Betfair ambassador Dimitar Berbatov head to www.betfair.com/berbatov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I read that yesterday. Was quite depressing seeing him talk specifics about formations, individual player attributes and the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Cheers mate! Absolutely gutting going from this man to the current buffoon FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Cheers mate! Absolutely gutting going from this man to the current buffoon FFS They're more or less the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Good article, and yes he’s been proved right on that ”facts speech”, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Bruno Fernandez in a Newcastle shirt playing under Rafa Benitez Wonder if putting up some money instead of only chasing the free transfer option would have solved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 You can win in a “bad” way and what I mean by that is you get lucky. Apart from three points, it is maybe not that useful. If you win in a “good” way and are much better than the other team, then that shows you are strong. It feels more important. Ha! Stick that up ya chubby bollix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Slipped me by, but is that a very clever and thinly veiled attack on Bruce? Rafa doesn’t strike me as they type to believe in “luck”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Slipped me by, but is that a very clever and thinly veiled attack on Bruce? Rafa doesn’t strike me as they type to believe in “luck”. Ashley's such a tit for letting this bloke leave. He wasn't demanding 100's of millions like some would have us believe. If he's been given the money that's been spent since he left he would definitely have stayed and we'd be comfortably in the top ten now I'd bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Miss these times so badly, feels like ages ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Even when you see us try to defend with 10 men behind the ball, it’s chalk and cheese. Under Benitez you could see the players knew exactly what to do to be as hard as fuck to beat. They knew when to try and close down, they knew when to sit in their banks of 4 or 5. Now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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