Rafa Benítez (now unemployed)

[magvicar]

Just now, Bishops Finger said:

Maybe don't write the bollocks. Anyone who can defend Bruce is an idiot. He would have had us relegated and you're trying to compare him with Rafa. 

As I said, bypass what I say or even ignore me and you don't have to read it.

The choice is entirely your choice.

 

[madras]

5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

OH BOY OH BOY. 

 

We've gone from Rafa v Bruce to the moon being made from rock v the moon being made from cheese.

 

Or talcum powder.

There could be Dinosaur fossils on the Moon.

 

(and I'm not kidding)

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Wey no I think it's class.

magvicar doesn't do it so they turn round and go 'Thank you magvicar for the opportunity, thank you for the wisdom, thank you for the laughs.' He does it so, one day, someone will go "There goes magvicar. I must remember to thank him."

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, Bishops Finger said:

Ita an opinionated so and so who knows everything 

 

The arrogance is fucking incredible man.

[MrRaspberryJam]

1 minute ago, madras said:

There could be Dinosaur fossils on the Moon.

 

(and I'm not kidding)

 

There sure could be. They also reckon octopus were brought to earth from meteors. 

[MrRaspberryJam]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

magvicar doesn't do it so they turn round and go 'Thank you magvicar for the opportunity, thank you for the wisdom, thank you for the laughs.' He does it so, one day, someone will go "There goes magvicar. I must remember to thank him."

 

 I've been told via DM to knock the office quotes on the head. 

[madras]

Just now, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

There sure could be. They also reckon octopus were brought to earth from meteors. 

Really ? I'm checking that one out like.

[Bishops Finger]

Just now, magvicar said:

As I said, bypass what I say or even ignore me and you don't have to read it.

The choice is entirely your choice.

 

How do I know what to ignore and what not to. I'm sorry mate but I just understand anyone apart from Bruce's media chums that could defend him. He's the worst manager I've ever seen in the premiership and I'm completely bemused as to how many times he's been employed as a manager. And I wouldn't put you on ignore just coz I don't agree with what you're saying, you might talk sense sometimes?

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, madras said:

Really ? I'm checking that one out like.

 

https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/123479-trending-science-do-octopuses-come-from-outer-space

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

 I've been told via DM to knock the office quotes on the head. 

No worries, I shall quote it to you no more  

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Seems Pardewgate is going to get eclipsed pretty quickly right here. Carry on.

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

No worries, I shall quote it to you no more  

 

Definitely not! I'm all for it. Infact I f*cking love it. 

[madras]

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/123479-trending-science-do-octopuses-come-from-outer-space

Yeah I just read. Widely discredited mind. Not as likely as dinosaur fossils on the moon.

[magvicar]

1 minute ago, Bishops Finger said:

How do I know what to ignore and what not to. I'm sorry mate but I just understand anyone apart from Bruce's media chums that could defend him. He's the worst manager I've ever seen in the premiership and I'm completely bemused as to how many times he's been employed as a manager. And I wouldn't put you on ignore just coz I don't agree with what you're saying, you might talk sense sometimes?

I'm not exactly defending Bruce anymore than I do with any other manager, including Benitez.

I've given Benitez his kudos and also Bruce but also slated the pair of them.

That goes for most other managers and generally this is how it works.

 

Some people's messiah's aren't everyone's messiah's.

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, magvicar said:

I'm not exactly defending Bruce anymore than I do with any other manager, including Benitez.

I've given Benitez his kudos and also Bruce but also slated the pair of them.

That goes for most other managers and generally this is how it works.

 

Some people's messiah's aren't everyone's messiah's.

??

[Chicken Dancer]

The football was not better under Bruce, like. Benitez was heavily criticised for that 0-1 defeat to Man City in 17/18 and it stuck (the 100pt season btw). Don't get me wrong, it was never free-flowing attacking football, but we used to create plenty chances in certain games.

 

Going toe-to-toe with that Man City team would have meant a 0-4 defeat or something, Rafa was wise to the importance of goal difference. We played pretty much the exact same game plan the following February and won 2-1, nobody said a word because we won. The same sort of thing is happening now - the media/socials is telling everyone that we are this disgusting, time-wasting mess whereas we who watch it every week know it not to be the case. 

 

It took a few transfer windows but the second half of 18/19 when we signed Almiron and were playing a settled side every week we looked every bit a decent team.

 

Benitez will always be a pragmatic manager, but to say the football was better under Bruce is utterly absurd and just outright wrong. I'd have loved to see Benitez able to sign a £40m striker. I understand that Benitez wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but Bruce was like a sunday league manager and that's being kind. The Geordie Pardew, but maybe that's being harsh on the silver fox.

[The Prophet]

[magvicar]

3 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

I understand that Benitez wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but Bruce was like a sunday league manager and that's being kind. The Geordie Pardew, but maybe that's being harsh on the silver fox.

Very harsh to be fair.

[Likelylad]

Good Lord! What is happening in here?

[UncleBingo]

Still chuckling at have-a-go football. ??

[Dr Venkman]

4 hours ago, magvicar said:

You're entitled to your opinion on what you think I dress it up as but that's my opinion and I won't be wavering on it anymore than you will on what you think.

 

You've made an assumption there, that my opinion won't 'waver'. I change my mind when the evidence changes. Not having an open mind is another hallmark of the hard of thinking.

[magvicar]

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

You've made an assumption there, that my opinion won't 'waver'. I change my mind when the evidence changes. Not having an open mind is another hallmark of the hard of thinking.

You're not going to change your mind on this specific argument against me, just as I won't.

 

[Dr Venkman]

 righto. It's been fun.

[St. Maximin]

2 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:

The football was not better under Bruce, like. Benitez was heavily criticised for that 0-1 defeat to Man City in 17/18 and it stuck (the 100pt season btw). Don't get me wrong, it was never free-flowing attacking football, but we used to create plenty chances in certain games.

 

Going toe-to-toe with that Man City team would have meant a 0-4 defeat or something, Rafa was wise to the importance of goal difference. We played pretty much the exact same game plan the following February and won 2-1, nobody said a word because we won. The same sort of thing is happening now - the media/socials is telling everyone that we are this disgusting, time-wasting mess whereas we who watch it every week know it not to be the case. 

 

It took a few transfer windows but the second half of 18/19 when we signed Almiron and were playing a settled side every week we looked every bit a decent team.

 

Benitez will always be a pragmatic manager, but to say the football was better under Bruce is utterly absurd and just outright wrong. I'd have loved to see Benitez able to sign a £40m striker. I understand that Benitez wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but Bruce was like a sunday league manager and that's being kind. The Geordie Pardew, but maybe that's being harsh on the silver fox.

Good point, though don’t fully agree about the outcome of that Man City match. Many weak teams have had a go at home to them and got thumped, but many have got positive results too. I don’t really blame Rafa for that, but it wasn’t pretty to watch and we’d have been far less complimentary to a less successful manager for that. I don’t have an issue with pundits criticising it tbh - more annoyed Bruce wouldn’t get the same treatment. 
 

Also this might differ to others here, but I have reservations over him pointing out the limitations of our squad, which helped him get away with some pretty bad runs of form. There’s often not an awful lot the separates teams that scrape into the top 10 from those in the relegation zone. We had no more of a ‘Championship squad’ than plenty of other teams, or Bruce did at times. 

[wormy]

7 hours ago, UncleBingo said:

Which players did he get more out of exactly?

 

7 hours ago, magvicar said:

Most I reckon.

 

Cant believe I opened the thread to this and realised there was another five pages of bites.