Varadi Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So the players we’re chasing, we’ve been quoted the price and Rafa believes we have the money to pay it. This isn’t going to end well is it. Could be that Rafa is just aiming incredibly low this time because he knows the club will never get the players he actually wants. He's probably also given up on any long term thinking and will just settle for the bare minimum needed to keep us up then he can walk away at the end of the season without another relegation on his CV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If he knew it wouldn't be by this month, that's scant consolation if it breaks down completely and he was planning his future on it. Just means we have to wait until the summer for him to resign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thread title very misleading if you read Matthew Raisbecks accounts of it. Basically, Rafa was told 3 weeks that Ashley would still be in charge all month. That's not at all as doom and gloom as the thread title appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Aye that needs changing if Raisbeck is owt to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So the players we’re chasing, we’ve been quoted the price and Rafa believes we have the money to pay it. This isn’t going to end well is it. Could be that Rafa is just aiming incredibly low this time because he knows the club will never get the players he actually wants. He's probably also given up on any long term thinking and will just settle for the bare minimum needed to keep us up then he can walk away at the end of the season without another relegation on his CV. Good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thread title very misleading if you read Matthew Raisbecks accounts of it. Basically, Rafa was told 3 weeks that Ashley would still be in charge all month. That's not at all as doom and gloom as the thread title appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So the players we’re chasing, we’ve been quoted the price and Rafa believes we have the money to pay it. This isn’t going to end well is it. Could be that Rafa is just aiming incredibly low this time because he knows the club will never get the players he actually wants. He's probably also given up on any long term thinking and will just settle for the bare minimum needed to keep us up then he can walk away at the end of the season without another relegation on his CV. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's still all doom and gloom I reckon but it's probably important to clarify that Rafa wasn't in on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thread title very misleading if you read Matthew Raisbecks accounts of it. Basically, Rafa was told 3 weeks that Ashley would still be in charge all month. That's not at all as doom and gloom as the thread title appears. The actual situation is worse isn't it? That Rafa just knew the takeover would be delayed, but now it probably won't happen at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Also if he knew the takeover wasn’t going to happen this month and he said he wanted transfers done by the 20th,it’s now the 19th so he must know we are unlikely to sign anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 As if Rafa is going to believe anything Ashley ever tells him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Since the transfer windows shut in the summer Rafa’s situation has always been staying this season and trying to keep us up and hoping a takeover is done before the of the season or early in the summer. If not then he’d be off. I don’t see how anything that has happened in the last week changes his position. He’ll stay and see if a takeover happens soon after survival is confirmed (if we stay up). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 PCP just need to sit tight until we are safe. They can then put in a revised bid without need of relegation clauses. Ashley has to sell then, otherwise he will lose Rafa (a key element in PCPs interest in the first place). He will loose a section of the home support going to games next season (numbers anyones guess). And he will own a club that could easily end up following in ******lands footsteps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Since the transfer windows shut in the summer Rafa’s situation has always been staying this season and trying to keep us up and hoping a takeover is done before the of the season or early in the summer. If not then he’d be off. I don’t see how anything that has happened in the last week changes his position. He’ll stay and see if a takeover happens soon after survival is confirmed (if we stay up). Nothing changes his position I suppose, but for us as fans it seems a lot more likely that it won't happen and he'll walk. That's the thing I'm worried about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Since the transfer windows shut in the summer Rafa’s situation has always been staying this season and trying to keep us up and hoping a takeover is done before the of the season or early in the summer. If not then he’d be off. I don’t see how anything that has happened in the last week changes his position. He’ll stay and see if a takeover happens soon after survival is confirmed (if we stay up). Nothing changes his position I suppose, but for us as fans it seems a lot more likely that it won't happen and he'll walk. That's the thing I'm worried about. Sign nobody, lose Rafa, get relegated, Ashley stays forever. That’s my fear now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Since the transfer windows shut in the summer Rafa’s situation has always been staying this season and trying to keep us up and hoping a takeover is done before the of the season or early in the summer. If not then he’d be off. I don’t see how anything that has happened in the last week changes his position. He’ll stay and see if a takeover happens soon after survival is confirmed (if we stay up). Nothing changes his position I suppose, but for us as fans it seems a lot more likely that it won't happen and he'll walk. That's the thing I'm worried about. Sign nobody, lose Rafa, get relegated, Ashley stays forever. That’s my fear now. Not sure how Ashely doesn't get this. He could keep his grip as it is - but it won't ever get his money back or a good price. Now is the best time to sell from his position. We'll never be worth more under him, only less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 We are instantly worth more once he gets his mits on the tv money , Rafa or no Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ashleys dream scenario : survive this season then f*** Rafa over yet again on transfers so Rafa either walks or Arsenal etc comes in for him at which point Ashley wants compo . Hes not interested in selling NUFC its the gift (52000 mugs ) that keeps on giving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Financial penalty aside, there's no reason for Rafa to stick around beyond this summer if Ashley still owns the club. It's a total waste of time for him treading water at a club who actively embrace mediocrity. Same as it's a waste of time for us. 10.5 years wasted and counting. It's pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Today's developments are fine, to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ashleys dream scenario : survive this season then f*** Rafa over yet again on transfers so Rafa either walks or Arsenal etc comes in for him at which point Ashley wants compo . Hes not interested in selling NUFC its the gift (52000 mugs ) that keeps on giving Hes gambling on staying up on very little, the value of the club rises again or at the very least cements his current position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 PCP just need to sit tight until we are safe. They can then put in a revised bid without need of relegation clauses. Ashley has to sell then, otherwise he will lose Rafa (a key element in PCPs interest in the first place). He will loose a section of the home support going to games next season (numbers anyones guess). And he will own a club that could easily end up following in ******lands footsteps. Ashley doesn't have to do anything other than continue to be a massive fat cunt. It's his club and he can happily wave two fingers to anyone who argues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ashleys dream scenario : survive this season then f*** Rafa over yet again on transfers so Rafa either walks or Arsenal etc comes in for him at which point Ashley wants compo . Hes not interested in selling NUFC its the gift (52000 mugs ) that keeps on giving I doubt we'll have 52000 every week if we go down (and possibly down again - we've been lucky the last two times). How much will the club be worth he won't invest in players and we hit League 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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