Stottie Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Surely it's clear this is the worst PL team we've ever had? Just so little quality, even when we put in a decent shift like today. Since Pardew came in, we have taken so many dickings by four and five goals that I can't agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Surely it's clear this is the worst PL team we've ever had? Just so little quality, even when we put in a decent shift like today. Since Pardew came in, we have taken so many dickings by four and five goals that I can't agree with this. Those teams were better just led by an imbecile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Surely it's clear this is the worst PL team we've ever had? Just so little quality, even when we put in a decent shift like today. Since Pardew came in, we have taken so many dickings by four and five goals that I can't agree with this. There is a big difference between ability and desire and heart, which you don't seem to understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Pardew's squads were legitimately good Premiership sides with sometimes 1 or 2 square pegs in round holes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I've not seen the game, but it doesn't look too bad as a result From the gist of it they scored a quality goal and defensively we've been better again with Lascelles? It's not surprising we didn't score given none of them had scored in the previous 8 games. I think a spine of Lascelles, Merino and Gayle upfront is important for us. Don't understand the logic behind Gayle not starting tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. Agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. The sentiment is right, but it's pretty difficult to find positives during this kind of run. Especially when it's not entirely down to abject performances, but rather a blindingly obvious gulf in quality. Just makes it difficult to see how it can be turned around. Other than buying what we need, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We're on a 9 game winless run, losing 8 of them. I said this about 5 games ago and it still applies, I think as a fanbase we've been remarkably calm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. The sentiment is right, but it's pretty difficult to find positives during this kind of run. Especially when it's not entirely down to abject performances, but rather a blindingly obvious gulf in quality. Just makes it difficult to see how it can be turned around. Other than buying what we need, obviously. Aye, I appreciate that, and I'm not sticking my head in the sand pretending everything is alright, cause it clearly isn't. I just think some people need to look at things a bit more objectively than just through Black and White eyes after a run of slightly more difficult fixtures. I mean, at the start of the season I wouldn't have necessarily expected much (if anything) from games vs Everton, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Even then Leicester you'd maybe expect a point at home. As the season has progressed a point at home to Watford and away to Burnley would have been okay too I reckon. The most annoying result has been vs Bournemouth in this latest run of games because even a point away at West Brom isn't terrible (so long as we beat them at home). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We're on a 9 game winless run, losing 8 of them. I said this about 5 games ago and it still applies, I think as a fanbase we've been remarkably calm This. Other fans would be calling for the manager's head at this point. Other clubs haven't had Ashley for like 10 years after being a PL team for like 14/15 years, where they were also challenging for cups and playing European football... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. The sentiment is right, but it's pretty difficult to find positives during this kind of run. Especially when it's not entirely down to abject performances, but rather a blindingly obvious gulf in quality. Just makes it difficult to see how it can be turned around. Other than buying what we need, obviously. Aye, I appreciate that, and I'm not sticking my head in the sand pretending everything is alright, cause it clearly isn't. I just think some people need to look at things a bit more objectively than just through Black and White eyes after a run of slightly more difficult fixtures. I mean, at the start of the season I wouldn't have necessarily expected much (if anything) from games vs Everton, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Even then Leicester you'd maybe expect a point at home. As the season has progressed a point at home to Watford and away to Burnley would have been okay too I reckon. The most annoying result has been vs Bournemouth in this latest run of games because even a point away at West Brom isn't terrible (so long as we beat them at home). Yeah, I agree. For me, its frustration more than anything. One win in amongst this run and we're sitting quite happily in mid table. The teams around us suddenly finding form has only amplified the concern. Just have to hope that we do move quickly in January, and that we're not cut adrift by the time we do. Stating the obvious, but a win at West Ham could potentially be season saving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I just think we've not connected the dots yet. We scored 2 against both West Bromwich and Leicester, that's enough to win a game. Scored against both Man Utd and Chelsea, again expecting more than that is unlikely. Woodwork then twice v Everton... The issue is we've been conceding too many. Lascelles has come in, we've conceded 1 in both games due to a mistake and a good finish. Just need to match up this defensive level with our previous attack. Gayle has to be playing, Murphy and Ritchie also for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Pleased as you can be with a defeat. Gargantuan game next weekend though. Loss. 100% Has your dummy come out? No, I just think we'll lose? Comfortably. Against West Ham...we comfortably beat them at SJP... Under Bilic when the form of each team was reversed. Aye, but nonetheless, I find it a bit absurd to write it off as a comfortable loss. Agreed. Can understand people thinking it'll happen though. Nothing (bar possibly Man City away) should ever be viewed as a write off. With this Man City team the home game should be written off as well. That's the spirit! Indeed. Our worst PL team ever definitely has a chance against the undefeated Man City team who have demolished just about everyone home and away in humiliating fashion. Not at all what I said, but okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It' some night when Le Tissier is being more positive about us than our own fans. What did he say? Gave it a good go, and if Perez had better finishing we could easily have got a point. Said there was a few things to be positive about from that performance, and Stelling said the same a couple of times. It does suggest if we can get a couple of players in January, especially a striker, the rest of the team could rally. Thanks. Sounds like we're doomed elsewhere on here. People spitting their dummies out needlessly imo. It's the sort of mentality we need to cut out if we want to stay up. Negativity at this stage only breeds further negativity and we'll implode. The sentiment is right, but it's pretty difficult to find positives during this kind of run. Especially when it's not entirely down to abject performances, but rather a blindingly obvious gulf in quality. Just makes it difficult to see how it can be turned around. Other than buying what we need, obviously. Aye, I appreciate that, and I'm not sticking my head in the sand pretending everything is alright, cause it clearly isn't. I just think some people need to look at things a bit more objectively than just through Black and White eyes after a run of slightly more difficult fixtures. I mean, at the start of the season I wouldn't have necessarily expected much (if anything) from games vs Everton, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Even then Leicester you'd maybe expect a point at home. As the season has progressed a point at home to Watford and away to Burnley would have been okay too I reckon. The most annoying result has been vs Bournemouth in this latest run of games because even a point away at West Brom isn't terrible (so long as we beat them at home). Yeah, I agree. For me, its frustration more than anything. One win in amongst this run and we're sitting quite happily in mid table. The teams around us suddenly finding form has only amplified the concern. Just have to hope that we do move quickly in January, and that we're not cut adrift by the time we do. Stating the obvious, but a win at West Ham could potentially be season saving. Aye, it would be a bit of a turning point I think. A bit like the Norwich home game was last season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Couple of callers on Total Sport, turning the screw on Rafa. Divide and conquer once again working for Mike Ashley. Truth is, Rafa hasn't enjoyed anywhere near the financial backing that Pardew and Maclaren had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 From what I saw we played really well, created chances, but just couldn’t finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 From what I saw we played really well, created chances, but just couldn’t finish. This. I didn't see the 1st half but I thought we played really well in the 2nd half and had a couple of good spells of pressure and possession. Ayoze has got to put that header on target near the end though, free header under little or no pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 From what I saw we played really well, created chances, but just couldn’t finish. This. I didn't see the 1st half but I thought we played really well in the 2nd half and had a couple of good spells of pressure and possession. Ayoze has got to put that header on target near the end though, free header under little or no pressure. Shearer would have buried that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Thought we were fine tonight all things considered. Set up well, had some decent pressure towards the end. Just have some rather limited players in certain important positions which keeps costing us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 unfortunately, as well as we played in the second half, we will probably be starting the new year bottom of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 From what I saw we played really well, created chances, but just couldn’t finish. Yup. Tactically spot on today, just need something to fall our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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