cp40 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Theres not a chance that goal would have stood if the roles were reversed- not a hope/ not surprised given the ref was local to Wolverhampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I can see a foul, and I can see it given. The thing that annoys me, is there's no way, we'd get the decision if the roles were reversed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If an outfield player impedes the leg of an opponent before getting to the ball it’s a foul. If an outfield player impedes the arms of a keeper before getting to ball then it has to be a foul. Dub’s doesn’t cover himself in glory but he’s clearly impeding in his efforts to get his arms up to the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I’ve yet to see a photo or replay to suggest anything else. Surprised it’s even a debate. Aye. Nearly everyone I was texting after the match said it wasn't a foul, absolutely baffled by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Thats a foul all day long, but we are Newcastle and we cant rely on the ref. Dubravka need to start use his elbows and knees more when he catches the ball. I bet players will try to bully him whenever they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 All this talk of the Dubravka foul/non-foul, I swear the one on Almiron shortly before was less contentious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 After watching that goal now, the ball goes through his hands before the player has arms on him like. Definitely a clanger from the keeper. Fourth one is the best angle yet that shows you’re wrong. Not too sure what Lascelles and Schar are doing there mind, Boly is obviously the target - he should have been marked tightly given there was just seconds remaining. Still gets given as a foul 9/10 imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think you can make all tackles look like fouls on stand alone images of them. At the time I didn't think it was a foul, Dubravka looked like he was moving back and the ball just went through his hands. The player jumped straight up and it looked like Dubravka went back into him/his arms more than the player going into or grabbing Dubravka. It was the timing of it that is the sickener Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It's the fact that it's a foul that's a sickener tbh. All the 'he'll be fine' comments etc are pissing me off I would imagine he will be fine, he was quality last night until he was fouled, pulled off a couple of great saves, plucked a fair few crosses out of the air and relieved the pressure. If anything, he'll be gutted at the amount of people who don't see it as a foul. The pictures are pretty damning evidence no matter how people are trying to view it, none more so than that last pic on the above tweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think you can make all tackles look like fouls on stand alone images of them. At the time I didn't think it was a foul, Dubravka looked like he was moving back and the ball just went through his hands. The player jumped straight up and it looked like Dubravka went back into him/his arms more than the player going into or grabbing Dubravka. It was the timing of it that is the sickener There’s a photo that shows he’s already in the air with his hands ready to catch it. ‘At the time’ I didn’t think there was a problem until I saw the photos and replays to show otherwise. The first view we had was from about 80 yards away too, not from where the officials were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It’s weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think it's more of a foul on 2nd viewing but in real time I didn't give it much thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Weak goalkeeping and made the wrong decision to try and catch it although I understand why he'd do that as that would have been the last action of the game. I still don't say that's a foul but others will. It's one of those that can go either way and unfortunately for us it's gone against us. The foul on Almiron in the corner just before the goal looked far more obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It’s weak. Yeah, you've said. Lots. It's still a foul. It's an absolute bullshit decision, yet again. Every single match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It looks weak due to him being fouled. He isn’t fouled, he takes it confidently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I really like the player and he has definitely brought alot to our team, goes without saying he is a world apart from the other options, but these clangers are creeping in and costing us. Maybe it's because of the sheer volume of pressure he faces week in week out the odd slip up is more likely to happen. I don't think it was a foul but can't shake the feeling if that happened to a "big" club at that time in a game the ref would have pulled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I really like the player and he has definitely brought alot to our team, goes without saying he is a world apart from the other options, but these clangers are creeping in and costing us. Maybe it's because of the sheer volume of pressure he faces week in week out the odd slip up is more likely to happen. I don't think it was a foul but can't shake the feeling if that happened to a "big" club at that time in a game the ref would have pulled it. So do you think players should be allowed to put their hands on the keeper when they're about to catch the ball? Should that be part of the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It looks weak due to him being fouled. He isn’t fouled, he takes it confidently. Weird how many people don't see that tbh. 'clanger' ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Its a clanger and a foul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I really like the player and he has definitely brought alot to our team, goes without saying he is a world apart from the other options, but these clangers are creeping in and costing us. Maybe it's because of the sheer volume of pressure he faces week in week out the odd slip up is more likely to happen. I don't think it was a foul but can't shake the feeling if that happened to a "big" club at that time in a game the ref would have pulled it. So do you think players should be allowed to put their hands on the keeper when they're about to catch the ball? Should that be part of the game? It's not even the arms on the shoulders I have an issue with, it's the big fucking hands waving right in front of his face as Dúbravka is trying to keep his eye on the ball. If that's all good and legal I have no idea why Steven Taylor stopped at jumping up and down in front of the opposition keepers, being a tit. He should have just gone all the way and chucked a potato sack over their heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Of course it was a clanger. He needs to be stronger in that situation, he should be either punching that or taking everything with it. He was to soft in trying to catch it, not sure if he thought he had more time than he did or if he didn't get a call, but he needed to be dealing with that a lot stronger than what he did. Saying that. I totally rate him and just think it was a lapse and I am sure he will make sure of getting that ball no matter what next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I really like the player and he has definitely brought alot to our team, goes without saying he is a world apart from the other options, but these clangers are creeping in and costing us. Maybe it's because of the sheer volume of pressure he faces week in week out the odd slip up is more likely to happen. I don't think it was a foul but can't shake the feeling if that happened to a "big" club at that time in a game the ref would have pulled it. So do you think players should be allowed to put their hands on the keeper when they're about to catch the ball? Should that be part of the game? Leverage init, goes on all the time with attackers and defenders vying for headers unpunished. Part and parcel of the game albeit when it happens to keepers the ref normally calls for a foul, wrongly. Officials though, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 He was fouled, but punch it and we win the game He’s still a good keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If it's not a foul then we've obviously missed a major change in reffing which we need to exploit. I'd now be telling my strikers to jump before the keeper so that they can get their arms around his neck and use him as leverage and try to block his jump/arms/view. Considering this is now legal, I'd be putting Rondon on the keeper every chance we get and just loading constant high balls into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The 'being stronger' argument could be true if he was challenging fairly for the ball, he's got a hand in his face pulling him back That's going to impede anyone no matter how hard he tries. It's only a clanger if it's 100% his fault, which it isn't. I'm sure he will try to make it his next time, but if he's got hands round his face again he'll probably not get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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