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3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Personally the grief I give him is just an assessment of what I see when I watch him play. Which is awful. I don’t see what’s childish about it. 

A terrible player ? He was a mainstay and healthy part of our team that finished 4th,  when he was out we missed him.

 

The childish bit is calling a premier league standard player (which he's proved) shit, terrible etc. Shit performance, terrible on the day fair enough, but in general its fucking childish.

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Just now, madras said:

A terrible player ? He was a mainstay and healthy part of our team that finished 4th,  when he was out we missed him.

 

The childish bit is calling a premier league standard player (which he's proved) shit, terrible etc. Shit performance, terrible on the day fair enough, but in general its fucking childish.


I disagree with that premise but it’s pointless debating it again. 

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3 hours ago, Jilted Generator said:

Hopefully Everton or somebody shit offer us 15m for him this month. Christ he was brutal today. 

I hear a lot about how such and such will pay 10/15 million, but I just fail to see how anyone in the footballing world can watch him and think “he’d be a good signing”.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Danh1 said:

I hear a lot about how such and such will pay 10/15 million, but I just fail to see how anyone in the footballing world can watch him and think “he’d be a good signing”.

 

 

He has a skill set which could be seen as desirable by many teams.

 

He covers a lit of ground and can break up play well.

 

We just have Tonali and Miley who can do the same and also pass progressively and look comfortable on the ball.

 

I hope a Everton, West Ham or Leeds pay 10 million plus for him to allow us to buy genuine quality

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Just now, Funtime Frankie said:

He has a skill set which could be seen as desirable by many teams.

 

He covers a lit of ground and can break up play well.

 

We just have Tonali and Miley who can do the same and also pass progressively and look comfortable on the ball.

 

I hope a Everton, West Ham or Leeds pay 10 million plus for him to allow us to buy genuine quality

I really hope so too, I just don’t see it. 

 

I would never give him stick at the match btw, where it actually matters. You could hear loud groans today at times, and last week at Spurs he played a pass across their box and it was short pace, he got dogs abuse. 

 

But on platforms such as this it’s fair enough, imo.  

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A proper ‘rabbit-in-headlights’ performance which the lad unfortunately has in him.  He was terrible - but I still think he’s a PL-standard player.  I suspect we’ve completely outgrown him, though, and in the summer he’ll be off to a bottom-half team to do a decent job. 

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5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

A proper ‘rabbit-in-headlights’ performance which the lad unfortunately has in him.  He was terrible - but I still think he’s a PL-standard player.  I suspect we’ve completely outgrown him, though, and in the summer he’ll be off to a bottom-half team to do a decent job. 

Aye.

 

He's a squad player for us like. Will do a grand job of closing teams out but that's it.

 

Love his effort, his desire, his local pride, everything. Love his fragility to some degree, reminds me that he's just a local and living the dream. Will always back him for that. Just won't take us to the next level. Really hope he's happy being a squad man for us tbh, that kinda desire to play for us is infectious to some degree.

 

 

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No need or point in having a dig about him tonight, that performance today told us absolutely nothing we didn't already know about what he offers. A move away is best for all concened tbh

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Not encouraging? We know his limitstions, we've seen him make over 100 Premier League apearances. He's thanfully out of the stadting XI now, he's a good professional, will keep himself in top shape and step back into being a reliable squad player. He'll be behind Miley soon.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Heron said:

Aye.

 

He's a squad player for us like. Will do a grand job of closing teams out but that's it.

 

Love his effort, his desire, his local pride, everything. Love his fragility to some degree, reminds me that he's just a local and living the dream. Will always back him for that. Just won't take us to the next level. Really hope he's happy being a squad man for us tbh, that kinda desire to play for us is infectious to some degree.

 

 

 

I’d keep him as a squad player - I still think he’s a better player than he’s often given credit for - but the club might just look at Miley coming through and think it is time to cash in.  

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7 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Not encouraging? We know his limitstions, we've seen him make over 100 Premier League apearances. He's thanfully out of the stadting XI now, he's a good professional, will keep himself in top shape and step back into being a reliable squad player. He'll be behind Miley soon.

 

 

 

Did you find it encouraging?

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4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I’d keep him as a squad player - I still think he’s a better player than he’s often given credit for - but the club might just look at Miley coming through and think it is time to cash in.  

Yeah. I think there's enough there to sugest he's a good squad player for us undoubtedly. Even a first teamer in certain circumstances. Just he needs to shake the habit of playing the same standard as opposition when they're of a lower standard.

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2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

I don't know why I need to find individual performances against Bromley encouraging from players who I've seen play better against PSG?

 

 

 

You don’t need to. 
 

I’ll put it another way - if you have a squad player who hasn’t played well for a while and isn’t getting minutes, in my view you want him to come in and play well against inferior opposition and give you a reason not to drop them. 

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The ott stuff about Longstaff and Almiron is so fucking stupid :lol: They are what they are.

 

As a 6th choice CM (in the hope that today convinced Howe that Miley is ready for more responsibility), who is content to stay and fight for his place, knows Howes system in and out, is a great fit for the group socially and who loves the club and the area, I really struggle to imagine any club being able to find any better. 

 

He improved in the second half too, not that it changed the ridiculous abuse he got in the match thread. Can't remember him putting a foot wrong.

 

Is it only our good players that are allowed to have bad sub-par performances without being unreasonably criticized? 

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