Miguel Almirón (now playing for Atlanta United)

[Bimpy474]

I think Murphy's crossing ability, which is rather overlooked and very good imo is why he's ahead of Miggy now for the right side, but we do need an upgrade on both of the. Well one, and you keep one as the back up.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Bimpy474

[80]

42 minutes ago, JP said:

Some of the shit he gets is really uncalled for too.

 

Yes, the quality is lacking but we just want a club that tries - right?

 

Almiron grafts more than any other player in the squad arguably.

 

Club that tries, not team. We want a club that tries to build a winning team. Otherwise we'd still want Ritchie here.

[TRon]

11 minutes ago, Vaj said:

Obviously he is well within his rights to do this but at the same time that is going to really piss fans off, especially if we don't get another right winger in now as a result of keeping him.

 

Any mention in the article of the original agreed price?

 

It doesn't help that he turned down the chance to go to Saudi where he would have got that bigger signing on fee and basic salary. Yes he's within his rights to stay here and run his contract down, but it's obviously not doing us any favours as we can't get that RW while he's here.

[Geogaddi]

14 minutes ago, Vaj said:

Is he a better player than Murphy at the moment though? I know it is only pre-season but he is consistently scoring now and at the end of last season was consistently scoring and/or assisting when given a run in the team.

 

I know which one I would prefer (albeit either of them as back up to a better option). 

They are both good enough to be a back up option and none of them good enough to be starting every week , wouldn't say is much between them at all yet only one of them gets abuse and that's for the reasons I mentioned above .

 

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Geogaddi

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

They are both good enough to be a back up option and none of them good enough to be starting every week , wouldn't say is much between them at all yet only one of them gets abuse and that's for the reasons I mentioned above .

 

I honestly think a lot of it just just because Miggy is left footed. That's what causes him to do things that frustrate fans.

[Deuce]

To be clear, it’s not Miggy’s responsibility to improve our squad by leaving. He’ll leave when he’s adequately compensated and transferring to a place he’s comfortable living. This is squarely on the club.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Deuce

[Superior Acuña]

7mil for Miggy would be a joke 

[TRon]

6 minutes ago, Deuce said:

To be clear, it’s not Miggy’s responsibility to improve our squad by leaving. He’ll leave when he’s adequately compensated and transferring to a place he’s comfortable living. This is squarely on the club.

 

 

 

 

Yep he's well within his rights. But it's also our rights as fans to cheer him when he does well, or call him out when his poor decisions end up costing us results.

[TRC]

Did PIF give him a new contract or was it Ashley?

[rebelrouser]

Would love to replace Miggy with Madueke, but will the new player have the intensity in the high press? He deserves a soft landing when he leaves.  

[LFEE]

10 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

7mil for Miggy would be a joke 

Wouldn’t even be that. It be nearer £5.85m as Atlanta have a sell on clause.

[Deuce]

7 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Yep he's well within his rights. But it's also our rights as fans to cheer him when he does well, or call him out when his poor decisions end up costing us results.

I’ll call him out for what he does on the field. Not for refusing to leave against his best interests.

[gdm]

8 minutes ago, TRC said:

Did PIF give him a new contract or was it Ashley?

It’s been said many times now that he signed a 3 and half contract last year. So PIF

[jonny1403]

3 hours ago, johnny36 said:

If we turned down 8.5 million for Almiron then I dont want Eales or Howe to mention PSR affecting us ever again..We had a chance to move on players (Trippier in Jan) and now Almiron and refused both..Cant have it both ways

 

This makes literally no sense. He is worth a lot more than £8.5 million and selling off players for way under market value in no way helps us for PSR purposes.

[Gawalls]

3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I think our lack of selling is a bit overblown. We had so many people to improve on or shift out, most of which aren't very saleable. Then we also had people like Wilson who entered the form of his career just as he might've been replaced. 

 

Personally I don't think we've mismanaged much and our transfer dealings have been excellent.

 

In the specific case of Miggy, he works incredibly hard and he also had an unbelievable period of form. And there are only so many transfer windows per season and so many players you can turn over. 

 

Fair enough to argue that we should sell players like Miggy, Wilson and Murphy at the peak of their form... but that would probably cause as many objections as agreements. 

 

 

 

To say someone works incredibly hard souds like a very patronising compliment - "Gordon really creates a lot of chaces, Isak will finish those chances and get us goals, Miggy - well he really tries".

[Vaj]

29 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

They are both good enough to be a back up option and none of them good enough to be starting every week , wouldn't say is much between them at all yet only one of them gets abuse and that's for the reasons I mentioned above .

 

 

 

Maybe not to the same level, but Jacob Murphy has definitely had a lot of shit off fans over the years as well. 

[simonsays]

12 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Wouldn’t even be that. It be nearer £5.85m as Atlanta have a sell on clause.

Aren't sell on clauses usually a percentage of profit?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Vaj said:

Maybe not to the same level, but Jacob Murphy has definitely had a lot of shit off fans over the years as well. 

 

Happy to admit I thought Jacob Murphy was absolutely useless. Now I'm planning a Juicy tattoo. 

[Gawalls]

3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Similar to Trippier, he's worth more to us than he's worth as a transfer fee unfortunately. At some point you have to pull the trigger, but the inevitability is that you'll pay a lot more to replace what you lose. Personally think £15m isn't an unreasonable asking price.

 

 

 

it's only not unreasonable if somebody pays it - question is will he be worth more than £8.m in January onwards cos we're not selling him this window"

[Gawalls]

2 minutes ago, simonsays said:

Aren't sell on clauses usually a percentage of profit?

not always I don't think, I read Guehi's sell on is on the whole lot.

[johnny36]

You would think they would have agreed or known his personal terms before they flew the whole way over..The Stengs transfer fell through too..They sound like chancers

[TRon]

46 minutes ago, Deuce said:

I’ll call him out for what he does on the field. Not for refusing to leave against his best interests.

 

That's fine, I can understand him looking after his best interests, I'm just saying it was in our interests for him to be sold for £20m to Saudi - where incidentally he would also have got that big payday which he couldn't get from his preferred USA destination. He's entitled to look after his interests, and we as Newcastle fans are entitled to want what's best for our club.

[Joey47]

If the bid was reduced to £7M the original one (that we accepted) can’t have been much more than 10M. Surely some other clubs might be interested around that price?

 

Although wages might continue to prove an issue, anyone know what he’s on with that 3.5 year deal?

[Aiston]

2 hours ago, Deuce said:

To be clear, it’s not Miggy’s responsibility to improve our squad by leaving. He’ll leave when he’s adequately compensated and transferring to a place he’s comfortable living. This is squarely on the club.

 

 

 

 

Silliness, it's his sole responsibility.

 

It's not Murphys fault no one wants him at all, so it has to be Almiron's fault as he's a bit more saleable etc !!

 

[Matt1892]

I said last summer that we should be moving Almiron and Wilson on, yet the majority were against it at the time, so no point in moaning about either of their contracts now.