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where he can trouser ridiculous amounts of money

 

Why do people keep saying this? Just because we haven't spent hundreds of millions on players, the conclusion is that MA is somehow fiddling the numbers?

 

As if he's not proven himself to be a dreadful custodian of the club without the need to invent some squirrelling away of incoming cashflows.

 

And FWIW, SD's recent misadventures have not cost MA a bean in terms of cash.

 

Didn't he take out another £33m last year,  yet the club debt never drops? This is despite the club turning in a profit.

 

No it went down to £111 from £144

 

Staggering how he's managed to increase the debt whilst spending nothing on players, full houses every week and Sky throwing money at him.like it's going out of fashion.

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Ready the gifs!

 

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Ahhhh the memories.

 

The amount of tapes I would have to return to the newsagent because they wouldn't load :lol:

 

Probably just needed to adjust your tape heads.

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"he has a manager of NUFC who cannot be replaced without the whole club imploding in a manner not seen before in its entire history."

 

 

I'm not sure that many people believe the above. In an ideal world for sure Ashley should suffer for his dreadful ownership, but even after mismanaging the club for 12 years and been relegated twice, he's still the owner of a profitable advertising vehicle for Sports Direct. If Rafa doesnt sign the contract he's alledgedly been offered, he'll be replaced by someone else and SJP will remain pretty much sold out. If the new manager turns out to be an idiot we'll probably get relegated again, something that seems to be no more than a minor inconvenience to the fat man.

 

 

Anyone who thinks that a Benitez-less NUFC with Ashley still at the helm will be able to move on from this takeover saga as if nothing has happened is utterly deluded and kidding themselves. The club will cease to be a cash cow for Ashley and will become an iron-clad albatross around his neck as it plummets into the Championship. It doesn't matter if SJP is still packed next season and played to a zombie atmosphere for games. The slightest bad turn will expose the anger and bitterness, the media will feast on it and everything will quickly snowball into an unstoppable negative force. And with no Benitez to turn water into wine and no time to buy players for the new yes-man manager the first bad turn will happen very early in the season.

 

I'm guessing a lot of people aren't old enough to know what NUFC is like when there is real doom, gloom and hostility towards the powers-that-be. In short, it's not pleasant, and next season will make the 88/89 season look like a picnic in comaprison.

 

When NUFC are relegated next season under Ashley he will be spending all of his time, money and energy in keeping the club away from the Championship trapdoor. There will be no coming back this time.

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This is what should happen but it won't. Clubs no longer have supporters they have customers, and the customers have put up with 12 years of Ashley, JFK, Pardew and lots of other fuckwits, and the crowds have stayed solid, with a little bit of booing and posturing from time to time. Let's face it we aren't Liverpool or Rangers or even West Ham for fucks sake, they would never have put up with this shit.

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"he has a manager of NUFC who cannot be replaced without the whole club imploding in a manner not seen before in its entire history."

 

 

I'm not sure that many people believe the above. In an ideal world for sure Ashley should suffer for his dreadful ownership, but even after mismanaging the club for 12 years and been relegated twice, he's still the owner of a profitable advertising vehicle for Sports Direct. If Rafa doesnt sign the contract he's alledgedly been offered, he'll be replaced by someone else and SJP will remain pretty much sold out. If the new manager turns out to be an idiot we'll probably get relegated again, something that seems to be no more than a minor inconvenience to the fat man.

 

 

Anyone who thinks that a Benitez-less NUFC with Ashley still at the helm will be able to move on from this takeover saga as if nothing has happened is utterly deluded and kidding themselves. The club will cease to be a cash cow for Ashley and will become an iron-clad albatross around his neck as it plummets into the Championship. It doesn't matter if SJP is still packed next season and played to a zombie atmosphere for games. The slightest bad turn will expose the anger and bitterness, the media will feast on it and everything will quickly snowball into an unstoppable negative force. And with no Benitez to turn water into wine and no time to buy players for the new yes-man manager the first bad turn will happen very early in the season.

 

I'm guessing a lot of people aren't old enough to know what NUFC is like when there is real doom, gloom and hostility towards the powers-that-be. In short, it's not pleasant, and next season will make the 88/89 season look like a picnic in comaprison.

 

When NUFC are relegated next season under Ashley he will be spending all of his time, money and energy in keeping the club away from the Championship trapdoor. There will be no coming back this time.

 

The fanbase is a completely different one to what it was in 1988. Most of the people who turn up now aren't capable of showing the hostility the crowd of 30 years ago could.

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I got told off a few years ago for leaving early by two full kit wanker women with a picnic basket on their laps

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The fanbase is a completely different one to what it was in 1988. Most of the people who turn up now aren't capable of showing the hostility the crowd of 30 years ago could.

 

This is a nonsense cliche that has grown over recent years. The modern-day SJP crowd is not all that different to that from the 1980s. People in the stadium are simply quietly depressed but they are still capable of getting every bit as angry at a game than any of the 80s lot. NUFC are not Chelsea FFS, it's a club comprised of people largely from an ordinary/lower working class background and most of those people are in it for the long haul, no matter what.

 

I was there in the late 80s and remember it all vividly. The main parts of the ground where all of the vitriol came from were the Gallowgate Corner & Scoreboard. Even the West Gallowgate was considered to be full of what would now be called "customers" but it was enough for the Corner and Scoreboard to create the anarchy that started off the snowball of negativity around the club. Most of those in the 20,000 crowds that we were getting back then used to simply shrug their shoulders at it all too but the small pocket of militancy was enough to turn it all to shit and send us into the 2nd Division.

 

SJP may have 50000 crowds next season but will only take 1000 of the remaining vociferous ones to start off a new spiral of doom.

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where he can trouser ridiculous amounts of money

 

Why do people keep saying this? Just because we haven't spent hundreds of millions on players, the conclusion is that MA is somehow fiddling the numbers?

 

As if he's not proven himself to be a dreadful custodian of the club without the need to invent some squirrelling away of incoming cashflows.

 

And FWIW, SD's recent misadventures have not cost MA a bean in terms of cash.

 

Didn't he take out another £33m last year,  yet the club debt never drops? This is despite the club turning in a profit.

 

No it went down to £111 from £144

 

Staggering how he's managed to increase the debt whilst spending nothing on players, full houses every week and Sky throwing money at him.like it's going out of fashion.

 

No it went down, nobody can argue he has not invested in the club the way he should have. The same time it's still a debt and currently his initial investment is still in accounting purposes showing as a substantial loss to him. This is the reason I was disagreeing with you in what you said earlier about him not selling the club due to profits coming in. I honestly believe he will be more than happy to sell the club whilst making a pretty big profit at the same time.

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