Newcastle Fan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Looks just like Rondon tbf, strong and quick and really works hard but will score a maximum of 10/12 goals a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I must be in a different camp. I think he was magnificant and showed why he’s worth the price tag. He was very decent in the first half, but woeful in the second. Magnificent is certainly over egging it. Because genius Bruce fucked up the whole team completely in second half. What I observe (and my focus) is the area he covered and his physical duel with Arsenal’s CB. Joelinton nearly won all these battles, no matter it’s in the air or on the ground. In addition, you should pay attention on his ball touch with both foot. Although he not up to Vidukas level yet, he definitely edges it over Rondon. He may not save us from relegation (which is good) but his quality is there, and I am pretty sure I ain’t alone. Just like Sissoko and Wijnaldum, he would have no problem finding a top 4 team after having a showcase season with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I did like that chance he created for himself at the edge of the box which was saved pretty easily in the end. Nice foot work. You do just worry whether him & Almiron could be Perez & Mitrovic all over again though. A bit raw to be leading the line for a full season at this level. I remember saying exactly that when we started that season under McClaren. I like the look of both players, but they would really benefit from having a proven manager to guide them and take some pressure off. Rafa was always very supportive of Perez even when he wasn't scoring goals. I can't see Bruce having such a cool head. He was blowing a gasket when Willems got his instructions mixed up yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I did like that chance he created for himself at the edge of the box which was saved pretty easily in the end. Nice foot work. you do just worry whether him & Almiron could be Perez & Mitrovic all over again though. A bit raw to be leading the line for a full season at this level. Bound to happen imo. Having lost Perez, Almiron is basically just Perez pre-Almiron. All of the spark and creativity in the final third - particular centrally - is now his responsibility, rather than it being shared and therefore collectively more productive. Thought the team badly missed the third spoke to the attacking trio yesterday from last seasons formation. Seemed like many times there was only one in the box and/or no-one coming round on the cover to pick up overhit balls in plus it meant nearly everything went through the centre in the first half with some success tbf although it is easier to defend against. Wasn't like the extra man in centre midfield was doing much either. Shelvey and Longstaff were both pretty ineffectual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hopefully yesterday makes Shelvey redundant and he just copies Rafa’s system with Maximin in. Longstaff was poor yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I quite like this Joelinton fella but I can totally see why Rafa had no intention of spunking 75% of his transfer budget on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hopefully yesterday makes Shelvey redundant and he just copies Rafa’s system with Maximin in. Longstaff was poor yesterday. Thought about this earlier, seeing as he's inherited a very similar squad to how we started last season you'd imagine he'd have reviewed it to see what the crack was. If he had then he'd have seen that Rondon & Perez were isolated for months and part of the issue was Shelvey. Ki/Longstaff and then Almiron + 2 up fixed the issue. What an absolute knacker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Looked a bit shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Looked a bit shit. He wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Like i say just saw the second half, poor lay offs and wayward shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hopefully yesterday makes Shelvey redundant and he just copies Rafa’s system with Maximin in. Longstaff was poor yesterday. Thought about this earlier, seeing as he's inherited a very similar squad to how we started last season you'd imagine he'd have reviewed it to see what the crack was. If he had then he'd have seen that Rondon & Perez were isolated for months and part of the issue was Shelvey. Ki/Longstaff and then Almiron + 2 up fixed the issue. What an absolute knacker. I thought on paper the three in midfield looked good in pre-season. Hayden was the one getting forward joining the attack but after seeing Longstaff yesterday, I’m hoping it was a one-off because we’re in trouble otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Was against Arsenal though - but in any case - i wonder if Longstaff's first competitive match in some time + the weather + somewhat bad day overall ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Weather Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Was against Arsenal though - but in any case - i wonder if Longstaff's first competitive match in some time + the weather + somewhat bad day overall ? I think it was probably the lack of structure with all recent changes, in both players and coaches. Rafa was very detailed about where players go and running channels so midfielders would know where to find the runners. Another poster, David Edgar said this in the match thread, and I think it was probably on the mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I hope this isn’t it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's been utter wank so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's not a target man; surely the scouting team could see this particularly given he didn't play as such last season. Odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's not a target man; surely the scouting team could see this particularly given he didn't play as such last season. Odd. He's a big lad. Just ask wor Bruce, he did his own scouting on him apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is There's a plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Not adjusting and a rude awakening. Doesn't help there isnt a player within 20 yards of him to support or give him a man on call. Should have buried that header. Like almiron it's a matter of time until he mentally implodes if he doesn't start scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is There's a plan? If there is I'm trying to work it out. I think it's wing backs to get down line and cross and hope someone is on it. Centre play is awful and the hole team looks disjointed, mind no fucks given either way, I haven't felt angry watching it, kind of want us to lose and can't want us to win that bad. Want my club back and it has to be this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It’s Mitro’s first season all over again. Carroll will be main centre-forward by October. We’re fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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