samptime29 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 He seems more of a 2nd striker. Secure Rondon, and play Joelinton off him and he'd look better. Just a stupid club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Stinks of Mitro in his season under McClown. As it was always going to be. Does a bit. Sign foreign, expensive, undeveloped forward > watch him fail. Replace him with proven, experienced forward to build the team around > watch him succeed. Get rid, sign foreign, expensive, undeveloped forward > watch him fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 He seems more of a 2nd striker. Secure Rondon, and play Joelinton off him and he'd look better. Just a stupid club. That doesn't make sense, he's quite tall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Didn't realise 2nd striker mean't they need to be small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He seems more of a 2nd striker. Secure Rondon, and play Joelinton off him and he'd look better. Just a stupid club. He certainly prefers to be playing deeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He only plays deeper because he has no coach telling him to stay in between their centre backs and more importantly, no midfielders giving him the ball in that position. Classic case of a striker dropping deeper because hes getting no service, then being isolated in the middle of the pitch and losing confidence in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Apart from the fact, he's played deeper for most of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Apart from the fact, he's played deeper for most of his career. With better service I bet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Apart from the fact, he's played deeper for most of his career. With better service I bet? Ofcourse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Didn't realise 2nd striker mean't they need to be small. I was being facetious and suggesting a PFM like Bruce sees a tall striker and assumes his only position can be alone up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Totally bemuses me how anyone with a brain thought this was going to work out. He can be as good as he wants but you are NEVER going to recoup £40m for a relegated striker, especially not when he's playing in a system and team as poor as we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The new Jon Dahl Tomasson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Stinks of Mitro in his season under McClown. As it was always going to be. Mitrovic is better. Joelinton would have been a good partner for Rondon. He has a good touch, moves well. Leading the line is not his game right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I think Joelinton is better personally, has much more mobility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Stinks of Mitro in his season under McClown. As it was always going to be. Mitrovic is better. Joelinton would have been a good partner for Rondon. He has a good touch, moves well. Leading the line is not his game right now. mitro had scored plenty of goals before we signed him, even if they were in lesser leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I like him, but he's not worth £40M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The whole deal is so strange and dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He's got a good touch and some nice things about his game but his finishing, specifically his heading looks a bit weak at this stage. Very early days of course mind and there's a fair few 30-40 million players around the league now plenty of who aren't exactly tearing it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The whole deal is so strange and dodgy. Aye I'd love to know the ins and outs, nothing about it feels genuine. They were more bothered about getting him than they were about keeping Rafa. Suspect the deal was done at the beginning of the year when we were first linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Joelinton having the same agent as ASM seemed a tad dodgy too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Wouldn’t be at all surprised if that head of recruitment bloke we’ve got is up to his neck in something dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Would be nice if some of our local journos could do some digging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I wonder what percentage of elite level transfers have been concluded based on a management team having analysed the attributes of a particular player and determined that they would suit an identified role in a team. There's certainly something disingenuous (as in, their signings weren't strictly 'football decisions') about the likes of Joelinton and Saint-Maximin, especially considering they had the same agent. But there's no way we're alone in securing transfers that might not have everything to do with creating a functioning team. It makes you wonder how or why the likes of Cabaye, Debuchy, Sissoko, Santon, Gouffran, Haidara, Cisse, Mbemba, Yanga-Mbiwa, Rivieire, Mitrovic, Wijnaldum, Thauvin, Cabella, Janmaat ended up here. Of course, some of them fitted into a position where we were lacking, for sure, but none of them ever felt like they had a great deal to do with the management team - even if Pardew or McClaren had a modicum of a say-so. Even going as far back to Jonas - his transfer was scrutinised shortly after he arrived, iirc. I'm not saying there's anything untoward or illegal - they're just not decisions grounded in football strategy. You just feel a bit suspicious about every incoming transfer from the continent; it feels like the likes of Carr, Nickson and those incoming players are functioning within another arm of the business, separate to the one which operates on football pitches. The only times when it feels like players have been chosen specifically by the football people is on the two occasions we've dropped to the Championship, when the intervention from the 'policy' side is less invasive towards the 'football' side. Funny how whenever the latter is allowed to operate close to its fullest extent, we win football leagues... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The whole deal is so strange and dodgy. Aye I'd love to know the ins and outs, nothing about it feels genuine. They were more bothered about getting him than they were about keeping Rafa. Suspect the deal was done at the beginning of the year when we were first linked. At the point of signing, Charnley mentioned that talks had been ongoing for a long while, which Rafa later expressed that he was not aware of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 There are also the countless transfers where players come here and never end up playing - Xisco, Saivet, Ferreyra, Nacho etc. Dodgy AF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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