JumpersForGoalposts Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 22/12/2022 at 11:54, Big River said: well yeah, his injury record is a factor. also the fact he's now behind Willock, Joelinton, and potentially even Jacob fkn Murphy for that LW position. guess we'll see eh? I'd rather play the tea lady than Murphy in any position. There is no way in hell ASM is worse than Murphy, that's crazy talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Given his gradual increase in minutes, and an opposition who will likely be happy to sit back and invite us onto them to break down so they can counter, I actually think Max will start against Leeds. The Bournemouth game was a reminder that we still can struggle to unlock sides when they're happy to sit back, and ASM has that bit about him where you can give him the ball and he can go past a player or 2 at pace as suddenly he's into the box and the opposition are shitting themselves. I love Miggy, but he often needs to be played in by someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 49 minutes ago, JumpersForGoalposts said: I'd rather play the tea lady than Murphy in any position. There is no way in hell ASM is worse than Murphy, that's crazy talk. well that’s not what I said, was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, JumpersForGoalposts said: I'd rather play the tea lady than Murphy in any position. There is no way in hell ASM is worse than Murphy, that's crazy talk. Think Murphy gets unfair criticism. I think he's fine as a squad player for where we are at the moment and has contributed this season We'll upgrade on him and he'll leave but don't think he's been bad this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I'd start him against Leeds, give one of Willock/Longstaff a break. I'd also rest Schar and make sure he gets booked against Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, TRC said: I'd start him against Leeds, give one of Willock/Longstaff a break. I'd also rest Schar and make sure he gets booked against Arsenal. Why would you want him to get booked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpersForGoalposts Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big River said: well that’s not what I said, was it? Don't bring context into this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, SteV said: Why would you want him to get booked? Probably so he's suspended for the Sheff Wed game rather than a league match or the QF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, frankpingel said: Probably so he's suspended for the Sheff Wed game rather than a league match or the QF. The Arsenal match is our 18th league game, and it cuts off after 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, SteV said: The Arsenal match is our 18th league game, and it cuts off after 19. Yes i know but I just think that's the reasoning behind TRC's comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, frankpingel said: Probably so he's suspended for the Sheff Wed game rather than a league match or the QF. That's not how it works. He'll be suspended for a leage game not a cup game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I thought you could be suspended for any domestic game or has that changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: I’m hoping he gets some meaningful minutes against Leeds. Either a start or a decent run off the bench. I think he might be our key player against Arsenal and would personally start him against them. We won’t be able to press quite as aggressively as usual. As they are good at playing around it and passing out of trouble. I think we may have to sit in a bit deeper at times, a bit like Liverpool and City. Where we had to do similar at different stages of the game. I just think he’ll get a lot more space away against a big team like Arsenal and will be really dangerous on the counter against Ben White. Plus, Willock has been a bit below par the last two games I’ve seen and sounded like he was off it in the Rayo friendly and all. You would start him against arsenal? We’re unbeaten in ages winning 8 on the bounce I think it is whilst beating teams like spurs away and Chelsea and you’d change the starting line up now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, joeyt said: That's not how it works. He'll be suspended for a leage game not a cup game I stand corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gawalls said: You would start him against arsenal? We’re unbeaten in ages winning 8 on the bounce I think it is whilst beating teams like spurs away and Chelsea and you’d change the starting line up now? Because of the reasons I mentioned in my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Because of the reasons I mentioned in my post. Time will tell if you’re right and he does get locked but I don’t think Howe will personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Time will tell if you’re right and he does get locked but I don’t think Howe will personally. I don’t either. He has shown he is reluctant to change the team too much and he clearly knows a fuck ton more than you and I. Just saying I think he could be the difference maker. In a game where we will see a lot less of the ball and will have good opportunities to counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I don’t either. He has shown he is reluctant to change the team too much and he clearly knows a fuck ton more than you and I. Just saying I think he could be the difference maker. In a game where we will see a lot less of the ball and will have good opportunities to counter. Get you - it’s just weird for me at the moment because you thinks let’s keep improving and evolving but howes system of keeping the status quo works. Question is - if he had a much larger and higher quality squad, Would he still keep the status quo or change more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 We’ll find out when we get to Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Thought he looked bit more like his old self today, i.e. some ridiculous dribbling ability. Bodes well as another option either from the start or coming on when we need him. I'd still love it if we could somehow integrate him into the current system so we are dangerous down the right and the left, but i guess we'll have to see if it's possible without losing some of our defensive steel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 ASM is definitely looking to pass it more now. He set up Joelinton with a great opportunity, but it was skied like the others. We had an intense spell of pressure before the subs came on, so I wouldn't blame Howe for the timing of the ASM/Wilson introduction. The question mark is whether Wood should have started. Wood is bigger than Wilson, but Wilson is more physical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Think he deserves a start now, like. His last two meaningful cameos have shown what he brings and that he is adapting his game to look for teammates more. We were so, so poor at getting the ball to him though. Love how they switched Ayling due to his booking and the sub couldn’t get near Maxi. Absolutely rinsed him a few times, despite being fouled. Switch Willock to the right and drop Joelinton back, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Yeah. It was painful watching us slowly work it to him. At least we finally started to look for him. I don’t think he had a touch for his first 10 minutes. Bit of a problem down that side with Burn and Joelinton. They seem to take an extra touch on the ball when it isn’t needed and we don’t get quick ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 My only doubt is whether a Joelinton, Bruno, Willock midfield offers enough structure and solidity. If we’re happy with it then I would be bringing ASM in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: My only doubt is whether a Joelinton, Bruno, Willock midfield offers enough structure and solidity. If we’re happy with it then I would be bringing ASM in. I think we played it quite a few times last season. (Edit: It’s what we started this season with.) Forest (h) 2-0 Brighton (a) 0-0 Man City (h) 3-3 So think we’ll be sound, even at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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