TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Erikse said: One thing that's really sad about this is that if he leaves to Saudi it means that he may not get to play in the Champions League ever.. Left the moment he got there with us, after what we went through together the last years. He was linked with Champions League clubs in some windows aswell. Who knows though, maybe he will go back to Europe at some point.. I have to say I’m not seeing the sadness like. He played intermittently well for us - and was hardly a key part in NUFC qualifying last season. He had two years under Bruce where he was a relief to the mediocrity and boredom - he’s hardly a long term servant of the club. This isn’t Rob Lee leaving after nearly a decade with us on the cusp of being good again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Why can't people who liked him be allowed to be sad that he's leaving right before a CL campaign? Is that really a subject that needs some gatekeeping due to someone else being a better and longer serving servant of the club decades ago ffs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Pata said: Why can't people who liked him be allowed to be sad that he's leaving right before a CL campaign? Is that really a subject that needs some gatekeeping due to someone else being a better and longer serving servant of the club decades ago ffs? I’m not gatekeeping - I’m also expressing an opinion. And that opinion is that some of the stuff I’ve seen around ASM’s departure is just odd to me. This isn’t a player who scored in every round of the cup being dropped for the final - it’s a player who scored one goal last season having his apparent destiny snatched away. Fucking hell man, ASM isn’t even close to the best NUFC players I’ve seen who didn’t play CL football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not gatekeeping - I’m also expressing an opinion. And that opinion is that some of the stuff I’ve seen around ASM’s departure is just odd to me. This isn’t a player who scored in every round of the cup being dropped for the final - it’s a player who scored one goal last season having his apparent destiny snatched away. Fucking hell man, ASM isn’t even close to the best NUFC players I’ve seen who didn’t play CL football. Just seems like completely unnecessary post and dig at someone. Someone says they are sad he's leaving before getting to play at CL and you come crashing in with 'I'm not sad, we've had better players'. Hope you don't end up accidentally in some random funerals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Pata said: Just seems like completely unnecessary post and dig at someone. Someone says they are sad he's leaving before getting to play at CL and you come crashing in with 'I'm not sad, we've had better players'. Hope you don't end up accidentally in some random funerals. It’s not a dig only at the poster - it’s the volume of this guff. Do you see the man in my avatar? He is the best player I’ve ever seen in a B&W shirt, and most of my vintage would likely say the same. But I’ve never heard anyone get sad about the fact that Peter Beardsley left the same season we qualified for the CL the first time. ASM had little role in us qualifying for the CL. Some heed-shaking needs to take place. It’s not quite the same as rocking up to a random funeral and saying ‘who’s the cunt in the coffin, then?’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I just don't see how Beardsley or Lee leaving decades ago have anything to do with this thread. ASM is gone, you don't have to visit this thread anymore if someone being sad about it gets on your tits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Pata said: I just don't see how Beardsley or Lee leaving decades ago have anything to do with this thread. ASM is gone, you don't have to visit this thread anymore if someone being sad about it gets on your tits. And you don’t have to reply to me if my comments irritate you either. For someone who complained about gatekeeping this looks an awful lot like gatekeeping. ‘Don’t comment if I don’t agree’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 People obviously like him, get over it, no one's forcing you to join in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: People obviously like him, get over it, no one's forcing you to join in. There is liking a player, there is not wanting him to leave, and then there is suggesting that there is an injustice to him not fulfilling his destiny of playing CL football for NUFC. First two make perfect sense to me - the latter, not a bit of it. He’s not being dragged from the club kicking and screaming after having the thing he’d worked so hard to achieve snatched away from him. He’s off to earn stupendous money in a league where his output won’t be criticised. Sounds like a dream ticket to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not gatekeeping - I’m also expressing an opinion. And that opinion is that some of the stuff I’ve seen around ASM’s departure is just odd to me. This isn’t a player who scored in every round of the cup being dropped for the final - it’s a player who scored one goal last season having his apparent destiny snatched away. Fucking hell man, ASM isn’t even close to the best NUFC players I’ve seen who didn’t play CL football. Bollocks tbh. If it wasn’t for Maxi pre takeover this club was fucked. He pretty much single handedly kept the team up when Joelinton couldn’t even hit the ball properly. Let’s not pigeon hole his whole Newcastle career in to the last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: There is liking a player, there is not wanting him to leave, and then there is suggesting that there is an injustice to him not fulfilling his destiny of playing CL football for NUFC. First two make perfect sense to me - the latter, not a bit of it. He’s not being dragged from the club kicking and screaming after having the thing he’d worked so hard to achieve snatched away from him. He’s off to earn stupendous money in a league where his output won’t be criticised. Sounds like a dream ticket to me. Who cares man, people are allowed to like a player and be gutted they're leaving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Who cares man, people are allowed to like a player and be gutted they're leaving Honestly, I’m ok with that. I’m just not keen on it being seen as some sort of cosmic injustice. Nowt wrong with not wanting to see ASM leave because you enjoy watching him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Memphis said: this video sums it up really well for me - forget the clickbait title, the actual content is really well-thought out. Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. Yeah, I just watched that earlier. Cleary is the best of the NUFC YouTube pundits for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Clery is great like. Video pretty much sums the situation up perfectly. I think @Kid Icarus hates him but I think he's great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I am a bit upset about Maxi but mainly for him. He'll make shit loads of money but he's probably already got enough. He'll be their best player though, which I think he will thrive on, I think that's what he wants. He was our best player and isn't far off that in terms of natural ability even now. Edited July 20, 2023 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not gatekeeping - I’m also expressing an opinion. And that opinion is that some of the stuff I’ve seen around ASM’s departure is just odd to me. This isn’t a player who scored in every round of the cup being dropped for the final - it’s a player who scored one goal last season having his apparent destiny snatched away. Fucking hell man, ASM isn’t even close to the best NUFC players I’ve seen who didn’t play CL football. You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wandy said: You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted. It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, gdm said: It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. Willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, gdm said: It’s wild to me how people can’t understand why people are so attached to Maxi. Him and Wilson was practically the only good thing about the Bruce era. I understand the sentimental aspect of it completely. The lad was a beacon of hope in a time of utter gloom, but as the team has got better he has got worse. It's the wailing that we have made a huge mistake and have somehow let a top class player go that I have an issue with....not neceessarily on here, but on social media in general. But the simple truth is that he isnt good enough to make the next step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 This argument is all a bit Ben Arfa now… Though of course Hatem was a much better player than Maxi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Shouldn't have watched this so soon, got proper sad. (I hope posting the video is fine) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wandy said: but as the team has got better he has got worse. He posted his best per 90 numbers this season, only behind Wilson and Isak in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pata said: Shouldn't have watched this so soon, got proper sad. (I hope posting the video is fine) No, you should take it down immediately (I’m joking!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, Viana said: I think @Kid Icarus hates him but I think he's great Hate is far too strong a word, I don't know him. I had personal reasons for not liking him years ago but tbf a lot of it was told to me by someone who in hindsight is the biggest pathological liar I've ever known in my life so I'm sure he's probably sound. His videos are decent tbf. I don't always agree but the thought process is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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