LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Absolutely ludicrous to even consider finishing the season, surprised Angela sanctioned it in Germany. The aversion to binning it off and starting again in September is bizarre. Was reading an article on the Bundesliga, one of the major reasons why they need to complete the season is in order to get the final payment from the TV rights - if they don’t get this, then a number of German clubs will go insolvent Don’t know where the PL is up to with payments? Think they have their final instalment? The PL I believe have to pay TV mopney back to the sponsors , hence the panic over where we are with when and it should be finnished So kind of similar to Germany then - this is going to be a nightmare for the respective boards Also I believe TV companies don’t want to remove Promotion/relegation from the equation which is understandable as otherwise what is the point playing them at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 No money has nothing to do it but the point being if one group can manage it why shouldn't a footballer be able to do the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 No money has nothing to do it but the point being if one group can manage it why shouldn't a footballer be able to do the same? But your asking them to isolate for how long? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Why are you comparing key worker NHS staff to footballers? And if money has nothing to do with it, why mention they're millionaires? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 What does the money they earn have to do with it? Because they're millionaires then their mental health is fine and they can sacrifice not seeing their friends and families until a vaccine is found? Footballers aren't key workers either. Really ignorant post I suppose if they are rich enough they don't really need to worry about the future of the game, they can put themselves first. But ultimately down the line it will affect future incomes for footballers in general. If the season is ended and clubs lose the tv money, they will have to make cuts to survive going on from this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 "I suppose if they are rich enough they don't really need to worry about the future of the game, they can put themselves first" What does that even mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 What does the money they earn have to do with it? Because they're millionaires then their mental health is fine and they can sacrifice not seeing their friends and families until a vaccine is found? Footballers aren't key workers either. Really ignorant post I think the point he’s making is other industries are doing it to help save others. Why not footballers who won’t either cut, defer (or both) their wages do it to save their football clubs/employers. If they agreed a large cut/deferral they would help end the vicious circle of playing now versus safety now. It does sadly seem the player as per usual want their cake and eat whilst hiding behind their agents. Certainly in the top flight for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Haven't the PFA told them not to take a wage cut? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Haven't the PFA told them not to take a wage cut? The PFA that none of them pay subs towards? Yes selfishly. They can only advise though. Nothing stopping them doing it themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 The PFA are a joke of an organisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Why are you comparing key worker NHS staff to footballers? And if money has nothing to do with it, why mention they're millionaires? Outside of NHS staff many others have delivered services and the money comment was a cheap shot to be fair. Footballers are not key workers but what I suggested is the only safe way to restart the league. If players dont want to make those sacrifices then fine, the league doesnt restart, clubs go bust, their contracts get terminated, and they don't play football for 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 The PFA are a joke of an organisation. Yep. Funded by the football clubs not its members. Only football eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I don't think there would be many footballers who would sacrifice not seeing any family or friends for 18 months. They're human beings not robots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Doesn't need to be that long, a couple of months while the rate of infection reduces and a decision can be made to remove the requirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Even health workers can wear PPE to protect themselves. It's not really possible when wrestling in the box before a corner. Cricket, I can see that being restarted without too much danger to the players, football is much more difficult, rugby forget it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 "I suppose if they are rich enough they don't really need to worry about the future of the game, they can put themselves first" What does that even mean? It means what it sounds like. If a footballer is worth millions, even if there is much less money around after this, his future is secure. He can look after his own family first even if he never plays again. He doesn't have to take risks someone who isn't a millionaire would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I don't think there would be many footballers who would sacrifice not seeing any family or friends for 18 months. They're human beings not robots Correct. So the question they’ve got to ask themselves is what sacrifice should/could they make as human beings rather than as robots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 As harsh as it sounds, just pretend it's a regular injury, play someone else and get on with it. Otherwise we'll be waiting many many months until every footballer is fine at the same time and ready to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 As harsh as it sounds, just pretend it's a regular injury, play someone else and get on with it. Otherwise we'll be waiting many many months until every footballer is fine at the same time and ready to go. Kind of difficult when it’s a highly infectious virus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Basically until there is a vaccine ready for use I can't see how football in this country can start without the major sacrifices that have been mentioned here. If they don't make any sacrifices then who knows what state football will be in by the time a vaccine is ready if it ever is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 "I suppose if they are rich enough they don't really need to worry about the future of the game, they can put themselves first" What does that even mean? It means what it sounds like. If a footballer is worth millions, even if there is much less money around after this, his future is secure. He can look after his own family first even if he never plays again. He doesn't have to take risks someone who isn't a millionaire would. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying because they're rich they should risk playing football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 As harsh as it sounds, just pretend it's a regular injury, play someone else and get on with it. Otherwise we'll be waiting many many months until every footballer is fine at the same time and ready to go. But other individual injuries don’t affect other players like the virus does as it has in Dresden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Even health workers can wear PPE to protect themselves. It's not really possible when wrestling in the box before a corner. Cricket, I can see that being restarted without too much danger to the players, football is much more difficult, rugby forget it. On Sky they were discussing with Joe Root whether slip cordons and wicket keepers standing up to the stumps would have to be stopped for a little while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 As harsh as it sounds, just pretend it's a regular injury, play someone else and get on with it. Otherwise we'll be waiting many many months until every footballer is fine at the same time and ready to go. But other individual injuries don’t affect other players like the virus does as it has in Dresden. As in, treat the player as needed. In this case it'd be to isolate them and keep testing team mates, as planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 As harsh as it sounds, just pretend it's a regular injury, play someone else and get on with it. Otherwise we'll be waiting many many months until every footballer is fine at the same time and ready to go. So everyone trains together, then one player tests positive. What do you do? Have your entire squad self-isolate and play the kids instead? Or be wreckless, play the game minus your infected player knowing there's a risk other squad members might have it but aren't showing symptoms. Then it's passed on to members of the opposing team, referees and staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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