r0cafella Posted Monday at 08:07 Share Posted Monday at 08:07 17 hours ago, Smal said: absolutely fine with keeping him another year. Realistically our second choice striker is not going to play much at all. We have more or less the best striker in world football - we're not good enough to not have him on the pitch for pretty much every minute in important games. I'm fine with Wilson and Osula being the other options for now. Letting him go means we'd need a replacement which would probably be anything between £20m-£50m taken out of the budget for other positions where we're desperate for more quality such as GK, CB, CM and RW. Should we qualify for Europe we need a second striker who can play and play a lot. We've seen what happens when we don't have this. Renewing Wilson makes zero sense, his availability means he barely qualifies as a body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 08:28 Share Posted Monday at 08:28 I'm a bit confused as to why he would sign a new deal. He'd be far better placed taking a chance elsewhere and getting a hefty signing on bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Monday at 09:11 Share Posted Monday at 09:11 Wilson will have no amortisation costs, and they will presumably negotiate on salary. He will cost very little and have limited PSR impact. I’d have no issue with him staying. If there’s European football, especially if it’s EL there is a need for a genuine understudy to Isak, that can’t be Wilson or Osula judging on this season. So that’s a new face IMO, but tying that to Wilson leaving is a mistake. Osula would probably get a Chsmpionship loan for half a season in that circumstance, which might do him a world of good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Monday at 09:26 Share Posted Monday at 09:26 As alluded too, GK, CB and RW are the main priorities. Fair argument that a RB may be too when Trippier leaves and ideally a CM. That will take up funds which we may not want to spend on a striker who (if we want Osula to step forward) will be third choice. It’s not even a 2nd choice signing really. Which means keeping door open on Wilson to be that bit part player for one more year may have its benefits short term. He himself could turn around and say he’s off, which means we have to move and likely revisit deals such as DCL, but I doubt we’re putting too much energy in the striker search right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 09:31 Share Posted Monday at 09:31 I’d much rather have Osula train with Isak, Wilson and Howe than go out on loan. I think so anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 10:00 Share Posted Monday at 10:00 27 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I’d much rather have Osula train with Isak, Wilson and Howe than go out on loan. I think so anyway. Think I'd much rather take a chance on him being our second striker for a season rather than gamble on Wilson's fitness tbh. At least you know you will have someone who will be available for bench duty for most of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted Monday at 10:05 Share Posted Monday at 10:05 I know it seems to us like he could get injured brushing his teeth, but I'd expect before making any offer, the data nonces would have analysed his injury record and know how much of it is due to his body being held together with duct tape, and how much is just bad luck/freak injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Monday at 10:13 Share Posted Monday at 10:13 9 minutes ago, TRon said: Think I'd much rather take a chance on him being our second striker for a season rather than gamble on Wilson's fitness tbh. At least you know you will have someone who will be available for bench duty for most of the season. Yeah but this isnt the choice. Wilson can’t be Isaks main backup, but he can be a useful squad player. Personally I don’t think Osula can be the backup either. I think it needs a new signing. Maybe the club think after this season Osula will be ready, for me that’s stretching. But once it’s accepted it can’t be Wilson then a new deal for him can be judged on what he can contribute vs what he can’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 10:54 Share Posted Monday at 10:54 There is no gambling with Wilson's injury, he's made of glass, he gets injured all the time. It's as close to something being nailed on as you can get When he's played he's been mint for us, good servant, we should thank him for his time and move on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 11:55 Share Posted Monday at 11:55 1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said: There is no gambling with Wilson's injury, he's made of glass, he gets injured all the time. It's as close to something being nailed on as you can get When he's played he's been mint for us, good servant, we should thank him for his time and move on Would your opinion change if he stayed fit for the rest of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 12:10 Share Posted Monday at 12:10 Wilson > DCL. Scored more goals than DCL from the start of last season. Is 1 goal behind DCL this season. Lower wages. If they think he can stay fit. Do it. 3 hours ago, STM said: I'm a bit confused as to why he would sign a new deal. He'd be far better placed taking a chance elsewhere and getting a hefty signing on bonus. Family could be settled in the area. If he’s backup he might prefer the less minutes and less toll on his body. He might like the approach Bunce and co are taking to performance and wellbeing. He has to live another 40 years in that body. Probably his only route to being in a team that can compete for trophies too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 12:10 Share Posted Monday at 12:10 13 minutes ago, SteV said: Would your opinion change if he stayed fit for the rest of the season? For me no, it’s the same cycle each time. He gets fit for a bit scores a couple and everyone says keep him. This is then followed by an inevitable long time out with various injuries. We need to let him go on a free in the summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted Monday at 12:15 Share Posted Monday at 12:15 24/25 - 6 (1) 23/24 - 26 (10) 22/23 - 36 (18) Appearances (goals) for us over the last 3 years. That is a year-on-year decline. Even if he manages to play every remaining game this season (16 currently), it would still be his lowest year since joining, and I cannot see him doing it (staying fit). If he can, it would take him to 22 games, and on that basis, I would probably consider a one-year extension, provided we get an RW who can genuinely cover right and hold a line up top if required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted Monday at 12:17 Share Posted Monday at 12:17 3 hours ago, STM said: I'm a bit confused as to why he would sign a new deal. He'd be far better placed taking a chance elsewhere and getting a hefty signing on bonus. Because we are by far the biggest club who would make him a contract offer? And he can potentially play in the Champions league at 33? And he's probably well settled in the area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 12:19 Share Posted Monday at 12:19 23 minutes ago, SteV said: Would your opinion change if he stayed fit for the rest of the season? No, it would be the exception rather than the rule But I'll say this now, there is absolutely next to no chance he remains injury free for the rest of the season, it's a shame but we have enough evidence to know how this will go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted Monday at 12:22 Share Posted Monday at 12:22 (edited) If squad places and PSR weren't an issue, I'd keep him around, but since they are, we need someone who's available more, even if they're not quite as good. Possibly that'd change if Osula is ready to step up to the necessary degree, but I doubt that next season. Edited Monday at 12:24 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 12:25 Share Posted Monday at 12:25 Would we mind compromising on getting a lesser quality RW and a Wilson replacement, as opposed to, let’s say our No.1 choice RW and keeping Wilson? (bit simplistic, but you know what I mean) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 12:26 Share Posted Monday at 12:26 Just now, SteV said: Would we mind compromising on getting a lesser quality RW and a Wilson replacement, as opposed to, let’s say our No.1 choice RW and keeping Wilson? (bit simplistic, but you know what I mean) Personally think we go for a RW who can cover up front (Mbuemo type). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 12:30 Share Posted Monday at 12:30 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Personally think we go for a RW who can cover up front (Mbuemo type). In an ideal world perhaps. But not sure there’s many about that adequately do both. Take Gordon for example, played up front / centrally in the U21 Euro’s (albeit maybe a slightly different system), yet not many actually rate him playing centrally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 12:33 Share Posted Monday at 12:33 6 minutes ago, SteV said: Would we mind compromising on getting a lesser quality RW and a Wilson replacement, as opposed to, let’s say our No.1 choice RW and keeping Wilson? (bit simplistic, but you know what I mean) I don't want us to be compromising, get as good a RW we can get and medium to long term it would be better Our starting eleven needs to have as many purples as possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 12:37 Share Posted Monday at 12:37 2 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I don't want us to be compromising, get as good a RW we can get and medium to long term it would be better Our starting eleven needs to have as many purples as possible So with that being said, would you be prepared to extend Wilson, if the money saved on replacing him got the level of quality RW we need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 12:40 Share Posted Monday at 12:40 1 minute ago, SteV said: So with that being said, would you be prepared to extend Wilson, if the money saved on replacing him got the level of quality RW we need? I just wouldn't extend Wilson I'd trust Osula/Gordon as cover up front and if the RW we sign is someone like Mbuemo then he could cover up front too I just see no value in keeping Wilson around, fairly high wages, limited availability and takes up a valuable squad space If Osula isn't ready and is going to be sent on loan then sign a striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Monday at 12:49 Share Posted Monday at 12:49 On 09/02/2025 at 12:01, Yorkie said: I'm generally behind our narrowly-scoped transfer policy of only spending big and only on players who are almost guaranteed to succeed. However, I'd sooner see us spend moderately on less of a sure thing than extend Wilson's contract. If it's DCL on a free, that's fine with me. We need a senior striker to relieve Isak next season, particularly with us being in Europe. I can actually see DCL coming in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted Monday at 13:08 Share Posted Monday at 13:08 Now hear me out - Fabian Schar as backup striker..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 13:38 Share Posted Monday at 13:38 (edited) PSR is a factor to keep him. im guessing his wages are £4-5m. Amortisation if renewed will be under £1m. Jonathan David on a free would be £5m on wages and close to the same for signing on fee. Probably more. Edited Monday at 13:39 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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