TRon Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, jack j said: We aren't getting anywhere near 20 million for him mind. Same way some people think we would get 15 for longstaff. Probably get 15 for the 2 of them He's got a far higher ceiling than Longstaff though. I just don't think he prefers playing in a side that sits back more so he can attack the space. We know he can play in a pressing side, because he was mint in our CL qualifying season, but he played out of his skin that season. Doesn't look like he can do it consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Struggling to think of a game he really played well in recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 seems to have some kind of mental block. plays with no confidence at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, huss9 said: seems to have some kind of mental block. plays with no confidence at all. I think you are onto something there. He looks lost at times, both mentally and physically. Frustrating because he was one of our top performers a couple of seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I feel really sorry for the lad. There’s real talent there, and he’s shown it for us in the past. He’s had so many injuries that it could be combination of those taking their physical toll, and a mental toll as well - his game is about his combination of technical and physical attributes. The lad might be constantly worrying about another injury. Total guesswork, of course. But the current situation can’t go on forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Always been one of his bigger fans on here. But with the PSR world we are forced to live in. I think he might get moved on. As others have said. He seems to play his way into form and takes a while to get up to speed. He isn’t going to get that here. As he doesn’t get in our best XI and must now be behind Miley in the pecking order, or at least about to be bypassed based on performances across the season in centre midfield. I’ve always found him a bit positionless. He’s not your usual CM type with his attributes, he isn’t really a winger, he isn’t good enough with his passing to play attacking mid. Great in games that are stretched and when he has room to use his pace. Yet annoyingly doesn’t seem to work as an impact sub. That hybrid role he played on the left with Joelinton was amazing. But we seemed to have moved past that now, Gordon seems untouchable/won’t be played on the right and Joelinton is injured, anyway. For what he is worth, the likely wages, his injury record etc. Like one or two others. This summer might be the last chance to get a reasonable fee for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Always been one of his bigger fans on here. But with the PSR world we are forced to live in. I think he might get moved on. As others have said. He seems to play his way into form and takes a while to get up to speed. He isn’t going to get that here. As he doesn’t get in our best XI and must now be behind Miley in the pecking order, or at least about to be bypassed based on performances across the season in centre midfield. I’ve always found him a bit positionless. He’s not your usual CM type with his attributes, he isn’t really a winger, he isn’t good enough with his passing to play attacking mid. Great in games that are stretched and when he has room to use his pace. Yet annoyingly doesn’t seem to work as an impact sub. That hybrid role he played on the left with Joelinton was amazing. But we seemed to have moved past that now, Gordon seems untouchable/won’t be played on the right and Joelinton is injured, anyway. For what he is worth, the likely wages, his injury record etc. Like one or two others. This summer might be the last chance to get a reasonable fee for him. Totally agree. His issue is he is a position less as you say. Hes not good enough on the ball in terms of retention to start in midfield but he’s not really a winger. Even when he was doing really well he’s seemed more of an impact sub from the bench. I’m neither here nor there with him, I can see a role for him but it’s definitely not as a starter at the moment. Injuries really have hampered him recently too to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: I feel really sorry for the lad. There’s real talent there, and he’s shown it for us in the past. He’s had so many injuries that it could be combination of those taking their physical toll, and a mental toll as well - his game is about his combination of technical and physical attributes. The lad might be constantly worrying about another injury. Total guesswork, of course. But the current situation can’t go on forever. He's got the physical and technical attributes to be a top player, but he has seemingly always struggled with the mental side of the game - for us, I have no idea what he was like at Arsenal. If only we could just take Longstaff's ability to deliver his consistent 7/10 performance every week and marry it up with Willock's footballing ability... Instead we have Willock who ranges from 4/10 to 9/10 with an average of 5s and 6s. It is a real shame cos Willock could be a hell of a player. There are loads of factors which could be at fault for him being unable to deliver consistently high standard performances and it might take him moving to try to find a club that is right for him to realise his potential. He might get lucky and land on a club that is perfect for him. Then we'll all wet the bed ignorantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Please show up today. We don't need goals or a MoM performance, just some composure and determination to get a grip on that midfield battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, TRon said: Please show up today. We don't need goals or a MoM performance, just some composure and determination to get a grip on that midfield battle. He's showed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Having a very strong game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Not the only one and lots of the game left but Willock has been class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: He's showed up. He's got better and better as the game has gone on. Struggled until we scored I thought but he's gone from strength to strength since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Not a player you give up on that easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago A twinkle of the old Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago aye great he's showing some of his strengths here,would like to see a strong finish from him in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Holloway said: aye great he's showing some of his strengths here,would like to see a strong finish from him in the game Well that didn't work out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: Well that didn't work out yeah faded quite quickly but an improved performance from him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: Well that didn't work out Don't think it was down to Willock in all fairness. We got worse when he went off if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 39 minutes ago, TRon said: Don't think it was down to Willock in all fairness. We got worse when he went off if anything. Oh, I definitely don't agree with that. Tonali was everywhere. Unfortunately nobody else was anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Much better from Willock today. He looked gassed early in the first half so I wonder how his conditioning is. He was much more aggressive today and hungry for the ball and he did some excellent work in transition, really happy for him. Just needs to get into top shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago He complements Gordon well. Gordon often cuts in and him moving out wide helps create space. His pace and athleticism are handy in that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Return to form. I thought outside of Hall and Isak he was our MOTM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago The game suited him, and he delivered a superb performance. My opinion hasn't changed though, he ranges from 4/10s to 9/10s with not enough consistency. I want to see him prove me wrong and deliver a strong run between now and the end of the season. Reckon he'll be done with us if he can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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