Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Eh?, wait, did we play Spurs and get beaten when I wasn't looking or something? I need to be outed because I don't think we should right off our game against the Spuds?, why's that then? oh momma What on earth is your problem? You seem to be trying to rub people's noses in it because they disagreed with you on our chances of beating Spurs. Yet we haven't even played them yet Nobody I can see in this thread said we'd definitely beat them anyway, just that we have such a good record against them that we should see it as a winnable game instead of righting it off as a loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Eh?, wait, did we play Spurs and get beaten when I wasn't looking or something? I need to be outed because I don't think we should right off our game against the Spuds?, why's that then? oh momma What on earth is your problem? You seem to be trying to rub people's noses in it because they disagreed with you on our chances of beating Spurs. Yet we haven't even played them yet i let it out earlier mate, the blindness that was prevalent in FEBRUARY (and all season really) when spurs had redknapp and had spent money on good players yet we were always gonna beat them 'cause we "always do" i offered good reasons back then why they'd demolish us, good reasons, but i forgot we "always beat" spurs right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Right so you said Spurs would demolish us and some people disagreed and said we'd beat them because we have an excellent record against them. Right ok that's a normal disagreement on a forum, what's the problem? We haven't even played Spurs yet so we don't even know the outcome and your gloating and acting like its a big deal. Did people insult you in these posts or something? I didn't in the post you quoted from me, all I did was ask you why you were so sure they'd beat us? I don't even get why you quoted me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 If I say I think our game against the Spuds should be seen as a winnable one because of how dominant our record is against them does that offend you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You mean you said Spurs would demolish us and some people disagreed and said they wouldn't because we have an excellent record against them. Right ok that's a normal disagreement on a forum, what's the problem? We haven't even played Spurs yet so we don't even know the outcome and your gloating and acting like its a big deal. Did people insult you in these posts or something? I didn't in the post you quoted from me, all I did was ask you why you were so sure they'd beat us? Again what's the problem? ah i see...my disgruntlement came from the arrogance and stupidity of our fans less than 2 months ago..i'm a logic and reason kind of guy you see, sorry if it's come across as personal spurs will bury us because they have the better players, team & manager AND WE'RE AWAY that was the case in february & it's the case now i take exception to arguments without reason, such as "the better record" when the players that created said record have been sold or reduced to dust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 If I say I think our game against the Spuds should be seen as a winnable one because of how dominant our record is against them does that offend you? actually yes, because it means you've either not watched us in the last 6 months, or have watched us and have no understanding of football or you've not watched spurs since feb or have and don't have enough understanding of the game to know they'll murder us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You think records mean nothing?, I have to say that's extremely naive. Of course records are there to be broken as the saying goes. However players and coaches do take notice of such things and it can become a mental block. After all we haven't beaten Spurs 6 times in the last 3 years home and away because we've always had the best players and manager. To be honest calling people arrogant and stupid because they disagree with you is a little bit arrogant and stupid. I mean people weren't calling you names were they?, just disagreeing. Like I said I don't understand why you have so much resentment about it, but whatever lets just wait until we play Spurs before we start talking about who is right and wrong ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 If I say I think our game against the Spuds should be seen as a winnable one because of how dominant our record is against them does that offend you? actually yes, because it means you've either not watched us in the last 6 months, or have watched us and have no understanding of football or you've not watched spurs since feb or have and don't have enough understanding of the game to know they'll murder us Yes of course, I haven't watched Newcastle United much at all in the last 6 months and I musn't know much about the game because I disagree with the mighty mrmojorisin75 Did you just call someone else stupid and arrogant?, because your doing a fantastic job of that yourself. Form does not tell you everything about who will win a game, if it worked like that every team would always be in the same place in the league, form changes and there are also blips. Records between two teams can often have as much baring on a game as form. Also for the record I've never said our game against the Spuds is a dead cert win and I can't remember anybody else saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You think records mean nothing?, I have to say that's extremely naive. Of course records are there to be broken as the saing goes. However players and coaches do take notice of such things and it can become a mental block. After all we haven't beaten Spurs 6 times in the last 3 years home and away because we've always had the best players and manager. To be honest calling people arrogant and stupid because they disagree with you is a little bit arrogant and stupid. I mean people weren't calling you names were they?, just disagreeing. Like I said I don't understand why you have so much resentment about it, but whatever lets just wait until we play Spurs before we start talking about who is right and wrong ok? teasy as i said apologies if this has come across personally but i'll boil it down to the basics of my ire: offer me a FOOTBALL reason how we'll beat them and i'll wander off into the sunset happy as larry - however there isn't a football reason we'll beat them, there's a historical reason we're at the lowest we've been for 15+ years and they're gaining some form with a new manager and some new players and to be honest have played decent football all season but have fucked up for a number of reasons as for records i was at every single game we lost in london during the famous run so i know all about runs and history seriously, gentlemanly 10 quid bet on the result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 If I say I think our game against the Spuds should be seen as a winnable one because of how dominant our record is against them does that offend you? actually yes, because it means you've either not watched us in the last 6 months, or have watched us and have no understanding of football or you've not watched spurs since feb or have and don't have enough understanding of the game to know they'll murder us Yes of course, I haven't watched Newcastle United much at all in the last 6 months and I musn't know much about the game because I disagree with the mighty mrmojorisin75 Did you just call someone else stupid and arrogant?, because your doing a fantastic job of that yourself. Form does not tell you everything about who will win a game, if it worked like that every team would always be in the same place in the league, form changes and there are also blips. Records between two teams can often have as much baring on a game as form. Also for the record I've never said our game against the Spuds is a dead cert win and I can't remember anybody else saying that. see my next post - the above is NE5-esque in its vagueness...of course we "could" win, any possible result can happen on any day a game is played Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There seems to be some confusion here. Again for the people not listening, I did not and have never said I'm 100% sure we'd beat Spurs. All I have ever said is its a game we should think of as winnable, as in a game we have a real chance of winning. I also haven't seen anyone in this thread claiming we're a dead cert to win, nobody's going to claim that against any team because no game is a dead cert, especially for us at the moment. History is a Football reason mate, and yes we all remember our London record which was finally smashed that night at Highbury. But until then it'd become a monkey on our teams back, because records get in your head. That's why I believe its a winnable game. Again that doesn't mean I think we'll definitely win, some people seem to take the work winnable to far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 If I say I think our game against the Spuds should be seen as a winnable one because of how dominant our record is against them does that offend you? actually yes, because it means you've either not watched us in the last 6 months, or have watched us and have no understanding of football or you've not watched spurs since feb or have and don't have enough understanding of the game to know they'll murder us Yes of course, I haven't watched Newcastle United much at all in the last 6 months and I musn't know much about the game because I disagree with the mighty mrmojorisin75 Did you just call someone else stupid and arrogant?, because your doing a fantastic job of that yourself. Form does not tell you everything about who will win a game, if it worked like that every team would always be in the same place in the league, form changes and there are also blips. Records between two teams can often have as much baring on a game as form. Also for the record I've never said our game against the Spuds is a dead cert win and I can't remember anybody else saying that. see my next post - the above is NE5-esque in its vagueness...of course we "could" win, any possible result can happen on any day a game is played I didn't say anything about "we could win", I was talking about how the record between two teams can often be as much of a factor in a result as the form of the two teams. If your think its vague that's your problem, pretty clear to me. To be honest the source of your disgruntlement is still quite vague to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There seems to be some confusion here. Again for the people not listening, I did not and have never said I'm 100% sure we'd beat Spurs. All I have ever said is its a game we should think of as winnable, as in a game we have a real chance of winning. I also haven't seen anyone in this thread claiming we're a dead cert to win, nobody's going to claim that against any team because no game is a dead cert, especially for us at the moment. History is a Football reason mate, and yes we all remember our London record which was finally smashed that night at Highbury. But until then it'd become a monkey on our teams back, because records get in your head. That's why I believe its a winnable game. Again that doesn't mean I think we'll definitely win, some people seem to take the work winnable to far. detente then all games are winnable ffs...however in the interests of closing this out and being able to get off to kip i'll repeat that for me this is not a winnable game for the following reasons: we have no manager, the one we've got is shit, our midfield is shit, our strikers can't score 'cause our midfield can't provide, our defence can't defend 'cause our midfield is too shit to protect them properly so our their confidence has been shot to fuck... this is without going into specifics about form and injuries etc... we've got a great recent record mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You're entitled to your opinion of course. I agree with a lot of it apart from the final conclusion. We should not right this game off, we should realise that Spurs have a quite shocking record of being shaky against us and go for the win. If we end up losing then IMO we'll have lost yet another potentially winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You're entitled to your opinion of course. I agree with a lot of it apart from the final conclusion. We should not right this game off, we should realise that Spurs have a quite shocking record of being shakey against us and go for the win. perfectly correct, however you know who is in charge now and how the game will play out, even if makes it back before then i suppose what i'm saying here is in this instance current form will beat history due to how bad our current form is, i.e. never been as bad for 15 years vs a 6 (?) year unbeaten record at WHL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I remember a couple of months ago when there was 90% of sarcastic smileys against Spurs and us having a laugh, to us being relegated and going nowhere, im starting to panic I remember a few months ago , this place being rammed with Ashley apologists. Do these people still believe , in his system, and management structure, or shall i order a HUGE HUMBLE pie, for these sad individuals,,,,,,, I know who you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Were there REALLY though? Or are you confusing Ashley apologists with people who just don't condemn everything he's done at the club? There's no way this place was rammed full of people who believed in everything Ashley was doing only a few months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Were there REALLY though? Or are you confusing Ashley apologists with people who just don't condemn everything he's done at the club? There's no way this place was rammed full of people who believed in everything Ashley was doing only a few months ago. Yes really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There were quite a number of people willing to give Ashley a number of opportunities to get things right, and also (probably too many) opportunities to put things right. I was one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There will have been the odd person, but no way was it rammed full of people like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There will have been the odd person, but no way was it rammed full of people like that. of course, you want to disassociate yourselves with supporting Ashley now,...lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Er ok I'm just trying to be fair on the forum, I'm not going to agree with you that the forum was rammed full of Ashley supporters if it wasn't. Stop exaggerating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Er ok I'm just trying to be fair on the forum, I'm not going to agree with you that the forum was rammed full of Ashley supporters if it wasn't. Stop exaggerating! methinks thou dost protest too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Er ok I'm just trying to be fair on the forum, I'm not going to agree with you that the forum was rammed full of Ashley supporters if it wasn't. Stop exaggerating! Tbf it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Nah yous are crazy, are you lot talking about one particularly fat person when you say rammed full like? In fact, lets make it easy, name 5 people who fully supported his system and management structure 3 months ago. I dare yas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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