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Relegation season we had a shocking squad, a ton of managers, we were a total shambles from top to bottom, and still we went down by 1 point. I'd be far more worried if I was Villa to be honest, not that finishing 16th or so will represent a "victory" by any means.

 

Yet this season we've got none of those excuses and we're worse off than we were then.

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Honestly reckon we'll go now. Half way through the transfer window and still we are a step behind where we were when it started. Gutted but gradually becoming massively apathetic towards the whole thing.

 

We need a lift and I don't know where it's going to come from, actually I do but I don't know if those running the club have the sense to pull it off.

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Relegation season we had a shocking squad, a ton of managers, we were a total shambles from top to bottom, and still we went down by 1 point. I'd be far more worried if I was Villa to be honest, not that finishing 16th or so will represent a "victory" by any means.

 

Peculiar season that one, anyway. Hull stayed up with only 35 points, I don't think it's likely to happen again.

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Relegation season we had a shocking squad, a ton of managers, we were a total shambles from top to bottom, and still we went down by 1 point. I'd be far more worried if I was Villa to be honest, not that finishing 16th or so will represent a "victory" by any means.

 

Peculiar season that one, anyway. Hull stayed up with only 35 points, I don't think it's likely to happen again.

can see it this season given the general incompetence of the prem in general never mind near the bottom

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people need to cheer up a little

 

Pretty hard to be cheerful when you go from 5th to 2 points above relegation and you see Ba leave the club and his replacement is off to the team who is 20th in the table and the club captain could very well be leaving.

 

We have won 5 games all season, with no away wins and 9 defeats in our last 12 games.

 

Hardly surprising people are struggling to remain positive.

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people need to cheer up a little

 

Pretty hard to be cheerful when you go from 5th to 2 points above relegation and you see Ba leave the club and his replacement is off to the team who is 20th in the table and the club captain could very well be leaving.

 

We have won 5 games all season, with no away wins and 9 defeats in our last 12 games.

 

Hardly surprising people are struggling to remain positive.

brooding about it does no good and isn't healthy, we've been through worse times than this and come out the other end fine we will this time too. Think positive

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people need to cheer up a little

 

Pretty hard to be cheerful when you go from 5th to 2 points above relegation and you see Ba leave the club and his replacement is off to the team who is 20th in the table and the club captain could very well be leaving.

 

We have won 5 games all season, with no away wins and 9 defeats in our last 12 games.

 

Hardly surprising people are struggling to remain positive.

 

Not used to the feeling of apathy yet? It's cool things can only get funnier.

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people need to cheer up a little

 

Pretty hard to be cheerful when you go from 5th to 2 points above relegation and you see Ba leave the club and his replacement is off to the team who is 20th in the table and the club captain could very well be leaving.

 

We have won 5 games all season, with no away wins and 9 defeats in our last 12 games.

 

Hardly surprising people are struggling to remain positive.

brooding about it does no good and isn't healthy, we've been through worse times than this and come out the other end fine we will this time too. Think positive

 

While i agree, its still hardly surprising people are feeling down  O0

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I don't get how some can be so certain that we're going down, when it's only half-way and we're not even in the relegation zone (and haven't been all season, i don't think?). I know, we learn from past failures, but i still don't think we'll go. If Coloccini goes and we don't replace him, i'll probably re-think that, but as it stands i'm close to certain that we'll nick enough points to come about 15th.

 

I said in this thread recently that it's not so much about "i don't know where the next win is coming from"... more, "i don't know where the next clean sheet is coming from." The shut-out at Norwich could have massive implications, because i believe there's plenty of goals in this team, with or without a new strikers. We might not have played well, but that clean sheet away from home should give the defenders' confidence an enormous boost. Another against Reading (as well as three points) would be terrific, given our current situation.

 

All that, and that we played extremely well against Manu and Arsenal for 70 minutes, only for the manager to (practically single-handedly) feed us to the dogs in the latter stages with some painfully shite decisions. Hopefully he's learned from them.

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yorkie, the manyoo and arsenal games are anomalous to me because both of them let you play against them if you so choose...take them away and we've always looked like utter shite against teams who aren't open - absolutely nothing has changed at all in reality

 

pardew doesn't have a clue, he'll make some new or oft-repeated selection/tactical decision against reading and we'll struggle like fuck...he'll then try to change and we'll either got out of jail or we won't...unless of course his plan a works and someone scores a few goals out of nothing

 

take the following team for reading: krul, debuch, santon, colo, willo, perch (DM), cabaye, anita, marv, cisse, obertan

 

no shola, no jonas

 

that team should be able to go out and play nice attacking football, but even if he plays it it won't do that, they'll huff and they'll puff and they'll throw long balls to cisse 'til everyone wants it all to end

 

this is why people are considering relegation, on paper we've got a team of artists but they're being made to emulsion walls as someone else said

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I might possibly take a relegation if it meant Ashley selling up like. Possibly.

 

He won't sell though, that's the difficulty. I think we are stuck with them all for quite some time and eventually will run us into the ground

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I might possibly take a relegation if it meant Ashley selling up like. Possibly.

 

ashley just needs to cotton on that a good manager could save him money in the long run and that pardew is not a good manager

 

pick up the phone, ring someone up who knows something about football and ask them who is a better manager who can work in the system...i honestly think it's as simple as that, as much as i believe he could/should spend more i don't think it's the be all and end all, a semi-competent manager would have had us nowhere near this mess imo

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