Wullie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The other thing that persists is that there's no way they'll sack Pardew - on the contrary, there is no way Ashley will risk that big TV deal. I think he'll go before the end of the season because we're only sinking from now. Ashley will soon realise that he would have been better financially and on the field sacking Pardew in January and spending nothing, such is the negative effect he has on the team. Dr Venkman's post when we signed players that it would soon become obvious that Pardew had been the real weak link all along was so utterly bang on the nail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We'd do what Southampton did IMO. Someone less known, foregin [sic] with European contacts and used to working under a DoF/chief scout/get what you're given system. Not that it's happening, at all. I'd be delighted with that personally but it will take a lot for it to happen. If they back Pardew in the summer (assuming we stay up!) and this season is repeated next then I think they'll start to think about it. Not before then though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 What a thoroughly, fucking depressing, evening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The other thing that persists is that there's no way they'll sack Pardew - on the contrary, there is no way Ashley will risk that big TV deal. I think he'll go before the end of the season because we're only sinking from now. Ashley will soon realise that he would have been better financially and on the field sacking Pardew in January and spending nothing, such is the negative effect he has on the team. Dr Venkman's post when we signed players that it would soon become obvious that Pardew had been the real weak link all along was so utterly bang on the nail. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 RE: Pochettino, a lot of people would absolutely spare if we got a new manager that couldn't speak English and had a previous win % of <33%, myself probably included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The other thing that persists is that there's no way they'll sack Pardew - on the contrary, there is no way Ashley will risk that big TV deal. I think he'll go before the end of the season because we're only sinking from now. Ashley will soon realise that he would have been better financially and on the field sacking Pardew in January and spending nothing, such is the negative effect he has on the team. Dr Venkman's post when we signed players that it would soon become obvious that Pardew had been the real weak link all along was so utterly bang on the nail. thing is we've seen how ashley has reacted in the past with replacing a manager at short notice, what do you think he'd do this time? personally i'd be all for binning him and leaving carver in charge to the end of the season we'd at least beat one of fulham / mackems to keep us up feelgood factor of releasing the pardew chains should be enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I think January showed that Pardew had done a pretty good job of convincing the club that we were fucked without investment. The question is whether they believed that because they trust Pardew's ability or they believed it because they don't trust his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 yeah i don't think they'll sack him like, don't even think they're considering it, and it could really come back to hurt us if results don't go our way lose at home to fulham he has to go imo, that'd be the end of the argument right there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. Pardew won't go until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. seriously, on what basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. seriously, on what basis? Who else would we get, in the Championship? I just don't think it's on the cards at all. He's here for the long term, come rain or shine. If we went down again all hell would break loose anyway, fuck knows what would happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Anyway this whole discussion is depressing as fuck, let's stahp. We'll collapse over the finish line like a pissed up geriatric, next season is where the key decisions will be made at the earliest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I just don't see him sticking with the bloke who cost him/might cost him such vast income when he's been so ruthless in the past. Having said that, I said in December that he'd been gone by New Year and was fucking astonished when he didn't go. Still am tbh. Not even sure the average man in the street could be as poor at his job as Pardew is without just showing up on a Monday and having a shit on the desk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. seriously, on what basis? Come on, if we kept Pardew after relegation would it really surprise you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 can't say it any better than wullie really decky, what would surprise me is if ashley didn't act in the face of relegation and possible losing out on the biggest payday in football history (probably) if we go down why would he want to keep him, given that he'd be responsible for essentially destroying all the good work ashley and llamblias have spent the last few years building? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 They appointed an inexperienced Hughton last time, when they could have appointed an experienced manager. They've got history messing up important decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 agreed, but doesn't ashley have a history of being ruthless in his businesses? if pardew almost single-handedly cost my business mufti-millions after i backed him with new players in january i'd fuck him into oblivion on a point of principle if nothing else, i'd fully expect ashley to do the same you only stick with a manager that relegates the club when they're fighting against the odds with shit players and have little right to expect to stay up in the first place, pardew does not fit into this category at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If anything they would ask Graham Carr, they seem to trust his advice a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We are now in such a fucking hurry to get the victories we need(2 next home games are crucial). Can we get them without sacrificing the Europa League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We are now in such a f***ing hurry to get the victories we need(2 next home games are crucial). Can we get them without sacrificing the Europa League? League status is far more imporant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We are now in such a f***ing hurry to get the victories we need(2 next home games are crucial). Can we get them without sacrificing the Europa League? League status is far more imporant. Yip, need to concentrate on staying up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I don't think Ashley will let him take us down, he'll try something. He has to. If we pick up less than four points from the next two games then perhaps alarm bells will start ringing but honestly I don't see Pardew leaving even if we went down. seriously, on what basis? Come on, if we kept Pardew after relegation would it really surprise you? Actually, yes. MA would/should sack him if only out of spite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 We are now in such a f***ing hurry to get the victories we need(2 next home games are crucial). Can we get them without sacrificing the Europa League? League status is far more imporant. 9- 10th still to play for and the possibility of winning the europa, as we go into April this season still has the potential to be the most successful in 44 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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