loki679 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 At the minute i'll say 7 if we don't beat Stoke i'll say 9. We are almost halfway thru the season, just above the relegation zone and the way the fixtures have worked out, we have the harder set of fixtures coming up. We can't win away and have tough home games after xmas. :frantic::frantic::frantic: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Next game is massive. While gutted with tonight, I expected to lose it after the Soton game and I think many of our feelings were based on assumption of losing tonight. If, however, we lost *5* in a row, capped off with humiliation at home to Wigan, that'd be up there with most dire moments in newcastle memory. Winning on the weekend won't erase it all, but could give me confidence we wont be relegated. When did we last lose 4 in a row? 5? Last time we lost 4 was pre/post KK fallout. Arsenal, Hull, West Ham, Blackburn. 5, God knows. 5. 6 months earlier in the league under Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Next game is massive. While gutted with tonight, I expected to lose it after the Soton game and I think many of our feelings were based on assumption of losing tonight. If, however, we lost *5* in a row, capped off with humiliation at home to Wigan, that'd be up there with most dire moments in newcastle memory. Winning on the weekend won't erase it all, but could give me confidence we wont be relegated. When did we last lose 4 in a row? 5? Last time we lost 4 was pre/post KK fallout. Arsenal, Hull, West Ham, Blackburn. 5, God knows. 5. 6 months earlier in the league under Keegan. Who? I thought we just drew a lot. Was the defeat at Anfield amongst it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 We only lost 4 in a row under KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 3's for mes like...we wont go down but its gonner be a guff season of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The too good to go down line of thought is being played here. We clearly in my mind a least have way too many quality players to have to worry about relegation. However we were in the same position a few years back and we dropped. There is a difference though this time around. We don't have the side show of a fan base angry at the ownership for stupid decisions. We don't have a managerial merry go around going on with a crazy caretaker with health issues taking over then getting ill again. And most importantly we have a much better dressing room with many more honest pros in there. I don't therefore think there is a lot of similarities with 2008/9, but having said all that, something clearly has to change, something is seriously wrong, the form has been poor all season and now we've been getting the result that form has deserved. I worry about Pardew's ability in a relegation fight, he's proved in the past that he struggles in those situations. Seeing quite where the next win is coming from is frankly extremely difficult, and copled with a tough month of fixtures coming up and a few teams below us starting to pick up, like Southampton and I'm sure Redknapp will get QPR going, we should be well and truely worried right now, which frankly is not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (When asked if his team were in a relegation scrap): "Well, we are now, and no it’s not too early. We can’t bury our head in the sand, and we have to get wins to get out of it.” I know it's not wise to pay too much attention to what he says, but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The signs atm are hardly encouraging but I'm definitely not worried about relegation. f*** that. Signs are getting worse but still not worried whatsoever [/headinsand] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It needs a couple of wins and sooner rather than later. If they don't come then it will be all hands to the pump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I heard a few years back that one of the most financially beneficial ways to own a football club was to yoyo between the championship and prem. maintaining a squad too good for championship, but not investing enough to compete in prem. I dont know if this model works- got me wondering about ashley tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pardew-counts-the-cost-of-rapid-rise-as-newcastle-falter-8369169.html Pardew was asked in the immediate aftermath of that loss [at Stoke] whether his side was in a relegation fight, even with the season yet to reach December. “Well, we are now, and no, it’s not too early,” he said. “We can’t bury our heads in the sand, and we have to get wins to get out of it.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pardew-counts-the-cost-of-rapid-rise-as-newcastle-falter-8369169.html Pardew was asked in the immediate aftermath of that loss [at Stoke] whether his side was in a relegation fight, even with the season yet to reach December. “Well, we are now, and no, it’s not too early,” he said. “We can’t bury our heads in the sand, and we have to get wins to get out of it.” :babygiggs: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Next game is massive. While gutted with tonight, I expected to lose it after the Soton game and I think many of our feelings were based on assumption of losing tonight. If, however, we lost *5* in a row, capped off with humiliation at home to Wigan, that'd be up there with most dire moments in newcastle memory. Winning on the weekend won't erase it all, but could give me confidence we wont be relegated. When did we last lose 4 in a row? 5? Last time we lost 4 was pre/post KK fallout. Arsenal, Hull, West Ham, Blackburn. 5, God knows. For 5 defetas it will have to be either from 91/92, 88/89 or some time in the 70's under Dinnis or whoever we were shittest under. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I was gutted when we went down last time but thoroughly enjoyed the season in the Champ and it wouldn't really bother me if we went down again. I think this summer finished me off a bit, realised that regardless of how well we do one season we're never going to have the ambition to push on under the current owner so it's all a bit pointless. There's f*** all I can do about that other than stopping going, which isn't going to happen so just going to enjoy it for what it is and I can do that in any league. We'd lose all our players if we went down but the manager seems keen on selling some of them and boots it over the heads of the others anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was gutted when we went down last time but thoroughly enjoyed the season in the Champ and it wouldn't really bother me if we went down again. I think this summer finished me off a bit, realised that regardless of how well we do one season we're never going to have the ambition to push on under the current owner so it's all a bit pointless. There's f*** all I can do about that other than stopping going, which isn't going to happen so just going to enjoy it for what it is and I can do that in any league. We'd lose all our players if we went down but the manager seems keen on selling some of them and boots it over the heads of the others anyway. I agree - see what I mean about how easily the board have managed to reduce fans' expectations ? I would never make that comment in a million years - but then, I am old enough to remember us finishing 2nd twice AND actually winning something.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 The worst thing is if we got relegated again, it wouldn't be like last time when we cleared out deadwood, we'd just lose all the progress we made last season and players like Ben Arfa and Cabaye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Still a 5, will go to 6 if we lose tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if Sunderland are now in a relegation fight according to their manager, how are we not given that we're only a point better off from the same games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if Sunderland are now in a relegation fight according to their manager, how are we not given that we're only a point better off from the same games? We are in one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if Sunderland are now in a relegation fight according to their manager, how are we not given that we're only a point better off from the same games? if our players and manager cant see it, then we really are in trouble. its got the smell of relegation about it, the only thing that gives me hope- unlike the last two relegations i watched, we appear to ahve hit rock bottom so early in the season, it has to improve, or we drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if Sunderland are now in a relegation fight according to their manager, how are we not given that we're only a point better off from the same games? I guess people are looking at both how we played last season and our squad of players and are just expecting us to kick in to gear at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So if Sunderland are now in a relegation fight according to their manager, how are we not given that we're only a point better off from the same games? I guess people are looking at both how we played last season and our squad of players and are just expecting us to kick in to gear at some stage. i may be mistaken, but in our relegations in the 70s and 80s, we finished 8th and 5th maybe in the season before relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Lose today and looking at the fixtures we're in a relegation battle. No mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Fcking hell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Fcking hell... ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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