TRon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production. The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement. Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs... Just pure financial common sense. I think this is bollocks tbh, we are a far richer club than Leicester yet they are set to win the league. The failure is down to Ashley trying to run the club on the cheap and hiring unqualified staff in key positions. Even he's realised the mistake and that's why we've gone for Rafa as a last gasp desperation measure. Too little too late. Lee fucking Charnley man. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production. The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement. Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs... Just pure financial common sense. We we flying high under SJH and Keegan in the 90s then again under SBR in the early 00s stadiums were packed out. It's got nowt to do with living in a poorer area. Liverpool is a poor region of the country but always want to be successful. Nufc as well as SAFC have both been grosly mismanaged. Ashley cracks out cheap ticks as the product on show is fucking dismal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 You can't link the current decline of nufc to the regions decline of industrial production. The current decline is down to Ashley's lack of football knowledge and his poor judgement of professional people or lack of judgement. Yes, in our case it is Ashley to blame but the general point I made still stands - it costs a fortune to attend PL clubs regularly these days, at least if you follow a SUCCESSFUL one...if you live in an area of low wages and poor job opportunities you have little spare to spend on football STs - just look at some of the ST prices in the PL compared to ours and you will see that the only way we have been able to keep high attendances under Ashley is because he sells tickets BELOW the standard rate. If you look at the price of our STs back in the 90s, they were much higher percentage-wise than they are now in comparison to cost of living/wages ; we could charge more then because we had a better product that people were prepared to spend quite a bit of their disposable income to see - now we haven't and we have NO waiting list for STs... Just pure financial common sense. We we flying high under SJH and Keegan in the 90s then again under SBR in the early 00s stadiums were packed out. It's got nowt to do with living in a poorer area. Liverpool is a poor region of the country but always want to be successful. Nufc as well as SAFC have both been grosly mismanaged. Ashley cracks out cheap ticks as the product on show is fucking dismal. We also had some of the most expensive tickets in the 90's. People will pay expensive tickets if they know it's reinvested back into the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Too many variables in that equation to link it that strongly with region. Plus there are about 80 clubs in London alone which just means that warps things. I was born between Birmingham, Coventry and Leicester; the latter two one club cities and ones ran complete differently to one another. having lived in Leicester for 3 years the main difference between the way they are run compared to the likes of villa and cov is the way the fans are treated. Their fans felt very valued - went to a lot of their away games in their last championship season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 January transfer window, Saivet & Doumbia? Combined wages must be 100k. Saivet was reported 6m fee. So plus the 1.5m on their wages so far,7.5m would have seen us a defender instead of wasting on players we don't intend to use? Don't get it. Doumbia another Ferayra type inclusion. Why do we never ever address the problem aeas, even people who don't watch us wouldn't take them long to see in the transfer window we should have signed a LB CB & Striker, and not spent on Shelvey,Townsend,Saivet, Doumbia, f***ing cluless blind idiots. Did they not honestly believe we were possibly going to be relegated back in January, there were a lot of people saying don't panic we will be fine, Robbie Savage said at the start of the season this would happen, can't stand him but spot on with predicted nufc safc will go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest chopey Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 It's over yesterday was our last chance, I think Southampton will turn us over next week and then the two home games in a few days will seal our fate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35953447 Why didn't he offer them to us ↑↑↑↑ we needed his help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Sunderland and Norwich will draw and we'll beat Swansea just to be annoying as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Down. Fuck Ashley. Hope he dies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Sunderland and Norwich will draw and we'll beat Swansea just to be annoying as fuck. We'll beat someone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Sunderland and Norwich will draw and we'll beat Swansea just to be annoying as f***. Isn't that the best possible result for us ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Actually think Norwich will beat S*nderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 They will. Norwich had far more to then than us or the morlocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yesterday was so fucking brutal. Had we just held on for a draw we'd be in with a really decent chance, IMO. Gonna take something special now, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Sunderland and Norwich will draw and we'll beat Swansea just to be annoying as f***. Isn't that the best possible result for us ? Yes but it'll just prolong the pain by reigniting the hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yesterday was so f***ing brutal. Had we just held on for a draw we'd be in with a really decent chance, IMO. Gonna take something special now, though. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yesterday was so f***ing brutal. Had we just held on for a draw we'd be in with a really decent chance, IMO. Gonna take something special now, though. Not really. We would still be reliant on doing something we haven't done in ages. Winning the majority of games in 7 game run. We needed 4 points to have a realistic chance of staying up. Firmly in miracle territory in either case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yesterday was so f***ing brutal. Had we just held on for a draw we'd be in with a really decent chance, IMO. Gonna take something special now, though. Not really. We would still be reliant on doing something we haven't done in ages. Winning the majority of games in 7 game run. We needed 4 points to have a realistic chance of staying up. Firmly in miracle territory in either case. Yeah but if we'd held on for the draw, out tails would have been up for the next few games, while there confidence would have been shot having just lost 2 points to a fellow relegation rival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Think we're fucked now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 At least Spurs might have nothing to play for on last day and a large number will have euros to think about.. Clutching any straw available.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 We're pretty much gone, had we drawn yesterday I think we could have done it with the "winnable" games, but now we need to pick up 4 wins in 7 to have any chance. Even then it's probably not enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I'm a 9. It needs less than a miracle, but more than a dramatic turnaround. 4 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses would bring us to 38 points, which is highly unlikely given the shambles of this season, but not out of the question. Wins from Crystal Palace (H), Swansea (H), Aston Villa (A), and then 1 win and 1 draw from Southampton (A), Man City (H), Liverpool (A), Tottenham (H) (may have lost the league by then). Sunderland and Norwich still to play each other. Norwich still to play Palace. Mitrovic going on a high scoring run? The frustrating thing is but for that last goal, we had as good a chance as any with a point to build on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 We are so down Worse than the last Toon side to be relegated which says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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