manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Yeah I got absolutely rinsed for going into the "positive" thread and dropping some realism As I have said many times, what is called the "positive thread" is logically the "Realism Thread", because that is what most of the currently known relevant information adds up to! Edited June 16, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, NE27 said: The in-depth De Marco stuff is most definitely a case of finding things you want to see in nothing. But i still firmly believe he has, at some point (Brown ale etc.) gave some weird nods to this whole thing. I expect nothing less from a fanbase who monitor air space and now the high seas for potential signs, its a crease Even if De Marco's photos *are* all carefully orchestrated to show subtle hints to NUFC fans, even if he is sending us subtle messages with every tweet, it's still just his opinion. He has a strong say in what happens, but there's another side with an equally-compelling argument and a strong say too. Like us all, I sincerely hope this takeover goes through, I want nothing more football-wise, and I'll celebrate like an absolute lunatic if it does. But those who repeatedly say that it's all just a formality and that nothing can stop this takeover need to chill out and keep that to the "optimism" thread, because it's fucking exhausting for the rest of us who want to be able talk about the pros and cons of this whole thing like adults. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, manorpark said: As I have said many times, what is called the "positive thread" is logically the "Realism Thread", because that is what most of the currently known relevant information adds up to! What is currently known is that there's arbitration and court cases going on. You have absolutely no idea about the outcome of these. Nobody does. Not even De Marco. We may win (I hope we do), or we may not. Keep your outright refusal to even acknowledge 50% of the possible outcomes of those cases to the other thread, whatever you want to call it, so the grown-ups can talk in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I don’t think Rafa going to another club is in anyway an indicator of anything. As we’ve seen, it’s been close before only for the league to start playing silly beggars under pressure from BeIn et al. He’d be daft not speak to Everton - taking his history with Liverpool out of the equation it fits most of his widely known criteria for a “project”. I’d love for him to come back, I’m sure the consortium would too - it’s a very easy early win for them - but sometimes the timing is never quite right and he can’t be expected to hold out in perpetuity can he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, manorpark said: As I have said many times, what is called the "positive thread" is logically the "Realism Thread", because that is what most of the currently known relevant information adds up to! So what's this thread now? Maybe it's time to merge them.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 The positive thread is the realism thread? could have fooled me. Always thought it was the braindead twitter thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Chris_R said: What is currently known is that there's arbitration and court cases going on. You have absolutely no idea about the outcome of these. Nobody does. Not even De Marco. We may win (I hope we do), or we may not. Keep your outright refusal to even acknowledge 50% of the possible outcomes of those cases to the other thread, whatever you want to call it, so the grown-ups can talk in here. It certainly isn't a 50 / 50 split of possibile outcomes, nothing like it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, Wilson said: The positive thread is the realism thread? could have fooled me. Always thought it was the braindead twitter thread. You are wrong then, and I wonder what the reason is for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Shearergol said: So what's this thread now? Maybe it's time to merge them.. Yes, we ALL deserve the fantastic future we are going to have - we all love NUFC - and so I do agree that we should also all "enjoy the build up to it" together, on the one Takeover Thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Not a big deal if Rafa goes to Everton, I'm sure we can do better once if this takeover happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, manorpark said: It certainly isn't a 50 / 50 split of possibile outcomes, nothing like it! So fuckin tiresome. arbitration will be a yes or a no that’s 50/50. Are you being deliberately daft? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Ketsbaia said: Not a big deal if Rafa goes to Everton, I'm sure we can do better once if this takeover happens. But manor park told us Rafa wouldn’t take another job (something he’s ignoring btw) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Ketsbaia said: Not a big deal if Rafa goes to Everton, I'm sure we can do better once if this takeover happens. Apart from all of his well known qualities, Rafa also has the "extra" three (at least) qualities of (1) He knows the Club and the City (2) Many NUFC supporters understand that and love him for it, and (3) He wants to be here, you will have read the plans that he had for here before he left. They would be the "same on Steroids" now !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gdm said: So fuckin tiresome. arbitration will be a yes or a no that’s 50/50. Are you being deliberately daft? If only life was as simple as that! Any 'issue' where the decision is (as yet) not finally made, will consist of (probably) thousands of variables. It is very unlikely that, in the entire long history of mankind, there has ever been one single issue where those variables have been equally split "50/50". That would be a miracle! Edited June 16, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, manorpark said: Any 'issue' where the decision is (as yet) not finally made, will consist of (probably) thousands of variables. It is very unlikely that, in the entire long history of mankind, there has ever been one single issue where those variables have been equally split "50/50". That would be a miracle! Exactly so you have no fuckin clue what will happen stop going on like you know it’s happening. but ultimately when it’s all said and done the verdict will be a yes or no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, gdm said: But manor park told us Rafa wouldn’t take another job (something he’s ignoring btw) He is very unlikely to go anywhere other than here, but I also never expected Chernobyl to explode. The world is, as written above, full of variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, manorpark said: He is very unlikely to go anywhere other than here, but I also never expected Chernobyl to explode. The world is, as written above, full of variables. He’s literally talking to other clubs. I’d say it’s quite likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, gdm said: Exactly so you have no fuckin clue what will happen stop going on like you know it’s happening. but ultimately when it’s all said and done the verdict will be a yes or no We are all different, we all have different abilities. Based on the information available to us all, I have come to certain inevitable, logical, clear conclusions. As they say . . "other conclusions are available" !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, gdm said: He’s literally talking to other clubs. I’d say it’s quite likely Did he tell you that in person? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Confidence has never been an issue - confidence from De Marco/Ashley/Bruce’s brother/Bruce’s sister in law/my friend’s neighbour’s cat is no different to Staveley’s confidence last summer. Confidence doesn’t secure a takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Confidence has never been an issue - confidence from De Marco/Ashley/Bruce’s brother/Bruce’s sister in law/my friend’s neighbour’s cat is no different to Staveley’s confidence last summer. Confidence doesn’t secure a takeover. Ability does though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, manorpark said: We are all different, we all have different abilities. Based on the information available to us all, I have come to certain inevitable, logical, clear conclusions. As they say . . "other conclusions are available" !!! I’ll play along… what abilities? And what information gives you this logical clear conclusion? please please don’t say “look who Ashley has on his side in court for him” Edited June 16, 2021 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, manorpark said: Ability does though. Absolutely. I don’t doubt those involved have confidence in their ability to succeed - but the PL and their team also have confidence in their ability too. A bit like I have confidence in my ability to have sex with Ariana Grande… doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 kill iz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Confidence has never been an issue - confidence from De Marco/Ashley/Bruce’s brother/Bruce’s sister in law/my friend’s neighbour’s cat is no different to Staveley’s confidence last summer. Confidence doesn’t secure a takeover. Haha. Wow. I look forward to the end of you Fantail Breeze, Joe Linton, Judge Holden or whatever you’re called when this takeover goes through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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